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Posted by: @bob-jackman

I really resent my tax dollars being used to entice others to buy these vehicles.

Yet, you'll purchase foreign vehicles ensuring YOUR money returns to foreign soil to strengthen a competitor's bottom line & dominance.  🤔 🤔   

When GM employes thousands, offering outstanding pay & benefits, in China thus creating "good economic"  stability to specific cities & providences, in reality it's GM & America that benefit the most.  Profits (the real money ) return "home." 

It works exactly the same when ANY transplant manufactures vehicles in the States. 

That being said, I'll be the FIRST to admit the "Big 3"  have NO ONE to blame but themselves.  I'm FULLY aware of "domestic quality,"  trust me.  But let's not kid ourselves... dollars spent on any foreign vehicle ultimately fortifies the origin OEM & that country.

If you owned a furniture company in Georgia, for example, but employed 4,500 very well-paid Chinese workers in Beijing.... who would benefit more?   Your workers in Beijing, or you and your headquarters in Georgia?    🤔 🤔 



   
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Posted by: @sizedoesmatter

You know what they say about opinions...

Like buttcracks - everyone's got one???  Excellent point John!  Wink  

 



   
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Posted by: @perrone1

Like buttcracks - everyone's got one??? 

All true....  But we must all remember the distinction between opinions  and facts..... which seems to get lost in sauce  these days.

It may be my opinion that 2 + 2 = 7.4,  but........      🤨 🤨 



   
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Posted by: @chris

Posted by: @perrone1

Like buttcracks - everyone's got one??? 

All true....  But we must all remember the distinction between opinions  and facts..... which seems to get lost in sauce  these days.

It may be my opinion that 2 + 2 = 7.4,  but........      🤨 🤨 

HA! The point is everyone has one - an opinion. But whether it is right or wrong is not a qualification. If your opinion is that 2 +2 is 7.4, you're either mathmatically challenged, or lost in the sauce. (But your point is valid Chris)  Wink  

 



   
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Posted by: @chris

Posted by: @perrone1

Like buttcracks - everyone's got one??? 

All true....  But we must all remember the distinction between opinions  and facts..... which seems to get lost in sauce  these days.

It may be my opinion that 2 + 2 = 7.4,  but........      🤨 🤨 

Raises another question...how valid are the facts? 

 


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I think I agree with Chris....even though I got lost in the sauce, as it were, very early in the program....because he is the one who stirred the pot to set this off and he is the only one who spoke parenthetically.  Wink  



   
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Posted by: @jack-dodds

I think I agree with Chris....even though I got lost in the sauce, as it were, very early in the program....because he is the one who stirred the pot to set this off and he is the only one who spoke parenthetically.  Wink  

And not only that - you've always said that 2 + 2 = 7.4! Any dunderhead knows it is 5!!  Formal Smile  

 



   
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@perrone1 Thanks Tony.....it's my 79.1 IQ surfacing again....and of course my 7 year educational background achieved in 12; the difference of which is the 5 you speak of.....basically.

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Posted by: @sizedoesmatter

Raises another question...how valid are the facts? 

Ah, not really.  This, in itself, is yet another sign of the times.   

True "facts"  are indisputable, that's why they're facts.   Problems arise when incredulous individuals become the source of the "facts."   Some are gullible (or stupid ) enough to actually believe liars when they cite "facts."

FOOLS & SUCKERS!!!!!!!

 



   
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Posted by: @chris

Posted by: @sizedoesmatter

Raises another question...how valid are the facts? 

Ah, not really.  This, in itself, is yet another sign of the times.   

True "facts"  are indisputable, that's why they're facts.   Problems arise when incredulous individuals become the source of the "facts."   Some are gullible (or stupid ) enough to actually believe liars when they cite "facts."

FOOLS & SUCKERS!!!!!!!

 

The guy's stirring a pot................of chili. Now you want a real controversy? Beans or no beans? 

 



   
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@chris Yes, the many of the new car reviews contain opinions, "the interior appears cheap", or "the ride is too choppy". Of course these are not facts.


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@bob-jackman, fascinating! How was driving it? How long did it take to charge it? How did you charge it?


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Posted by: @chris

These arguments about EVs still crack me up; In many cases they're practically verbatim in scope to verbiage expressed over 110 years ago.  There's NO doubt that YOU GUYS  will never, EVER own EVs, PHEVs, or Hybrids....got it!   But guess who will?   And in 100 years the EV-to-ICE ratio will be greater than the ICE-to-horse & buggy ratio expressed in 1940.  Laugh, mock, criticize, joke & jest all you want.....  the world has changed.   EVs are here to say... until hydrogen, speaking parenthetically, can be economically managed. 

Yes, the world is changing, but not me…& I won’t  be around in 100 years to see the EV to ICE ratio change…

 


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I don’t believe that there is anything wrong with having an opinion as long as you don’t try to push it onto others claiming that it is fact. Having worked in an American steel mill (Timken Steel, Canton Ohio) for 38 years, and retiring only because of having a massive stroke, I have my own reasons for my purchase choices. I have never had the least interest in any Asian cars, and personally never thought of owning one. I felt it was always in my, and my families best interests to buy American, and I did my best to buy everything, not just cars, American made. In my humble opinion (no facts implied) Asian auto manufacturers aren’t doing the United States any favors by building their cars here, they do it because it’s advantageous to them. To the best of my knowledge, all of the “hard parts” are sourced from their home nations and simply assembled by non union workers and robots in this country saving them  from paying shipping and tariffs on the completed units. Profits and revenue also go back to the home country. Like I stated, these are only my opinions and my thoughts, so don’t try this at home.

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@kevins 

Well said! Wink  



   
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