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(@phil-r)
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Whats your take on paint rash???

Being ive examined my cars the past few years (all packed away) and discovered some problems, some of which polish fixed to almost perfect or in some cases perfect results I have mixed feelings about this. Luckily its NOT more then maybe 7% but even so when you have over 260 models that translates to 15-20 models. My WORSE as mentioned was the cmc top down burgandy Horch. It wasnt even paint rash, but the zemak corrosion/cancer. Luckily it was replaced. The other models have mostly been minor rash with only a small area on the model showing something. Aside from maybe 4-5 cars that had bad rash on say a hood or entire door, most were able to be buffed out to almost perfect results. My question is the following..... WHat do YOU think is acceptible amount of rash that you can live with and that you feel dosnt detract from the model. If there is small specs on say a quarter panel, the side of a door of fender and its not severe I can live with it and it dosnt bother me too much anymore. WHY? Because we are learning that this is the nature of the beast! Would you consider a model with even a little rash NOT WORTH anything anymore? Or slightly less then a totally MINT model? As we are finding out, if you look real carefully you will find that probably one out of 10-15 has some type of problem even if its VERY VERY minor. I;ve learned to accept this much like if one collects vintage tin cars they usually will have a ding here or there or paint chips etc.. same for old hot wheels and TOnka Toys. NOTHING is perfect, sad that mine WERE almost perfect when I added they as I always seeked out the best example I could find, but time takes its toll on all things I suppose!

to be honest, MINOR paint issues bothers me less then missing parts or misaligned panels that dont fit right, doors that sag etc..



   
(@Dennis Mong)
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I'm just throwing in my 2 cents ... for what ever it's worth

First let me throw out .. all my die cast cars are in their foam packing pods and orig mint boxes

Always been in air conditioning

Some have been displayed from time to time in the GIOVANNI acrylic display cases.

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I have (2) Alfa Romero 29B ... Red

One is picture perfect ... yeah !

the other .... has total hood rash

My heart is crushed

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This is the killer for me are these two cars

My F/M 1929 Bugatti - 2 tone green -

I love that car in that color .... however ... hood and trunk - paint rash city ... My heart is devastated

The other total heart break is my '57 Caddy .. Black & Chrome

Both doors ... Pass Side ... total paint rash ... maybe complete metal failure .. but again ... I shake my head .. I paid good money for these things.

and to me ...$100.00 is good money.

Ans we all know ... that $100.00 is hopefully a middle of the road average ... average ..

Excluding the L.E. and the very hard to find offerings

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I recently bought the 1965 Burgundy Corvette from Bob Calhoun - he told me right up front, there is very small paint rash around the headlights .. that's OK ... seller made mention of it up front.

And to be blunt .. I can NOT see the paint rash with my eyes ... but if I put on my reading glass "AND" whip out my magnifying glass - I can see the rash around the headlights ... very very small

Now I have purchased a car from here ... no mention of paint rash - but the paint rash was there - I wish there would have been mention ... but it was not Bob or Bob.

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If the die cast car has very very small paint rash I can live with ... if the price of the car is cheap enough

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Missing parts ????

Door mirrors and radio antennae are about as far I accept

Anything else ... I'll pass ...

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Let's face it ... nobody is going to see and or care about the cars except me

If I show my die cast cars to "lil johnny public and show them to my grand children friends and buddies - nobody is going to know the wiser except a fellow diecast car collector coming over to my house.

Which is not going to happen any time soon because I do not know any other die cast car collector close by ... and I mean with 20 miles

Now if die cast car collectors in Tampa or South Florida drive up or over ... they will know

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Paint rash is a real heart breaker for me.

Truth be known ... if I had known this was a paint rash problem way back when .. I never would have jumped into this. And I do mean jump ... one does not just wade into die cast car collecting ...
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I just wish I had the skill set to repaint a die cast car.

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I thin I'm getting this karma of ... this paint rash is here to stay ... and maybe even get worse.

Which would totally pull the car out from my financial pay outs on these lil cars

Let's face it ... we all have paid good money for these things.

We trusted we would get quality product for our hard earned dollars.

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I gotta close with this ... my 1/18th die cast cars ... that I paid $9.99 to maybe $49.99 ... not one problem - Not one!!

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Sorry for rambling ... I hope I made some sense of this

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(@Douglas Ford)
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Dennis, your black 57 Cadillac is not paint rash. That was a fault of paint application being applied to chrome plated plastic without proper preparation. FM addressed the issues on the blue and maroon repaints. "paint rash" is a issue where the zemac diecast metal is either not prepped properly or a few other issues that I don't remember now.



   
(@whodeytink)
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You are lucky to have such a low percentage of cars with rash Phil. I can live with a little rash but it really bugs me when I buy cars from auction including here and the seller says the paint is perfect only to find it has rash all over. That has happened to me too many times buying cars here so I have given up on some sellers.



   
Richard Dube
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Most DM , FM and WCPD models.............

have paint rash to some extend but the subject has been taboo for many years and "polishing" no matter the product used (Novus or any other) is a "Band aid" on the disease.

Sorry, it is what it is.

I just closed my loop on my 1/24 collection with some rare models I bought in the last two months. They were supposed to be perfect.

They "all" have paint rash to some extend.



   
Richard Dube
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Some FM Black.....................

are fine. I have been lucky to have one with no problem.

It is still nice with no issue.



   
BradSmith
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Yep - I agree, same has happened with me.



   
(@Dennis Mong)
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+1



   
(@phil-r)
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So Richard do you agree then it is what it IS and that if we want to collect these models we might have to accept that at sometimes the example we "find" might be a little less then perfect and that is the nature of the beast? That is my take and as long as its not terrible and only a small area I can live with it and it dosnt bother me. I think you recently said any model with rash is worthless. I dont feel that way about it as most of these might have some to one extent or another as we're finding out.



   
(@phil-r)
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I agree and sadly I have had fewer purchases here and more elsewhere and to be honest

The majority of the cars I bought on our auction had problems that werent disclosed! Missing parts, paint rash, broken parts, etc.. Never had a problem with Bob K or the late Bob White. I got a white Rolls from Bob White and it had some issue. I think a bad casting or poorly fitting doors. I mailed it back (I paid for that didnt ask him to pay for my shipping to him) and he got another one and paid to ship it to me! Said he was sorry, didnt inspect the model prior to opening it etc... CLASS ACT! Other purchases were as you said. Model supposed to be mint, bad rash, paint cracking etc... and model was "Mint no issues" lol

Im not saying this to be sarcastic or start anything but being we DO have many older people here I wonder if perhaps their eye sight isnt that great up close and they dont notice the rash? It IS possible and I wouldnt expect a person to get a magnifier out I dont even own one!



   
(@phil-r)
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Doug is correct about this on the FM Cadillac there is a myth though about people saying that this happened because you cannot paint over chrome plated parts. That in itself is complete BS! WHY? Just about every model has chromed parts with something paint over it. Many of the dashes on our cars are chromed then painted over. THis enables the bezels around the speedos, radio, guages etc.. to be chrome like the 1:1s without having to make a bunch of tiny parts. The areas that arent chromed at then painted over. Same goes for alot of cars with chrome side trim spears and such. The body colored areas are painted over chrome pieces if you look carefully. Take a look at the FM packards side trim to see what I mean! If done right it does last and does work!



   
(@phil-r)
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Deniis if you want I can repaint the doors on your Cadillac!

Ive dont this many times over the years for people here and as I know never had an issue!



   
(@ryan-hurley)
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I think poor eye eyesight is possible, or hoping the buyer has poor eyesight



   
(@phil-r)
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The latter is .................

LMAO LOLOL hee hee Good One! ๐Ÿ˜‰



   
(@phil-r)
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low? 15-20 models is too much IMO but I know what you mean!

If I really nit pick I am sure I can find a larger % but it would be VERY VERY minor and if I sold them the buyer probably wouldnt notice and be VERY happy though naturally IF i saw anything I would disclose it!



   
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