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Nickies
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@chris This is disturbing news and the charts don't lie. I collect models for complete accuracy and details but an inaccurate  paint job is enough for me to put a model back in the box and store it away. It will join the GLM 1961 Dubonnet Imperial in the closet.


   
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Nickies
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@jkuvakas I have to  respectfully disagree. There was no Autumn Bronze or Verdoro Green listed for 1969 or even 1967 for Buicks. Please, guide me if I am wrong.

As for the  Brooklin 1965 Riviera you mentioned, it doesn't even qualify for a factory correct color. I don't believe Buick customers of the period would ever think ordering something out of the book.


   
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Mike DeTorrice
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If someone was actually there at the factory the whole time and had absolute and perfect personal knowledge of every Buick Electra 225 ever put together, than it makes no particular difference on color really. Also, there is no law that indicates model cars (and real cars) have to follow a supposed color chart (which may not be accurate and can fade and change with time), to say nothing about what it is being viewed on, what color standard is being used and individual eye sensitivity. Restored or aftermarket cars are not excluded from being made as models, so it becomes rather academic on color and of no consequence if you just get what pleases you.


   
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John Merritt
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Well, I'm sorry I posted these photos, and that this post has caused so many of the subsequent posts that have marred the beauty of this model. It is an amazing model as is the Autumn Bronze version. Goldvarg has given us something very special, for me color is irrelevant. What I have in my hand are two beautiful models not offered by anyone else. I am proud to have them, and as it has been said many times before. Buy what you like, if you are pleased with the purchase, that is all that matters. If you don't like it, move on. There are other choices. 

Thank-you Sergio, I for one truly appreciate your efforts with this model and every one of the models you've given us so far, and I look forward to others in the future. 

John Merritt
South Lyon, Michigan - USA


   
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Christopher Moroni
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This "color argument"  is old & tired. There seems to be two camps: Collectors who simply don't care about authentic colors, shades, two-tones, etc..  -AND- Collectors who do.  Basically, it boils down to this: Do you seek & demand historical accuracy or not? Period.  

Anything is possible, of course, but is it plausible?  For instance, did a 1968 Buick Electra ever leave the factory painted in a three-tone color scheme?  "No."  But of course, I could GOOGLE some guy's restoration and it's blue, gold & white w/black vinyl top. 

So then, if a manufacture duplicates his car in 1/43 would it be authentic?  "Yes."   Historically accurate?  "No."

My contention has ALWAYS been..  It takes just as much time to duplicate something correctly as it does to do it incorrectly.  Why then choose to replicate ONE GUY'S obscure factory-wrong blue, gold & white 1968 Buick, when factory-correct 1968 Buick color charts exists?

Personally, I seek scale historical accuracy.  If colors/schemes cannot be authenticated, I'll pass every time. 

As Mike noted, "Buy what you like and like what you buy."   For me, "...what you like"  is synonymous with historical accuracy. For others, it won't be, "correctly"  means little, they like it, and they buy it. Period.


   
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Karl Schnelle
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Well, I'm sorry I posted these photos,....

Please keep on posting.  It's a great color for that model regardless!


   
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Jack Dodds
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I don't see this thread as an argument at all; to me it's an interesting discussion.  Personally I prefer color accuracy but it's not a deal breaker.  In the case of this particular Buick it could well be a "spring color" factory issue as John K. mentioned, which we all know has occurred very many times in most car companies.  This may well be the case this time as I understand both of the subject colors are 1969 GM shades.  Also, both colors are listed for the '68 Pontiac, so I suppose it may be that if these were popular sellers on Pontiacs early in that model year, GM may have opted to make it a spring color for Buick....hard to say really.  I have the bronze version and LOVE it...it's a beautiful color.

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Christopher Moroni
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@jack-dodds My sole reason for the word "argument"  stems from the fact that in the 25 + years I've been associated with this Forum, to say comments and discussions have become "heated"  over this very topic would be an understatement.

"Spring colors, mid-year revisions, special orders, etc.."   are all true, they happen.  By why replicate "possibles"  (that are open to speculation & guesswork) when "certains"  (that can be verified in minutes) simply make more sense?

As noted, this only my opinion.


   
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Jack Dodds
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@chris Fair point Chris.  If I produced models I would focus on factory proven colors, but using this Buick discussion as an example, a spring color would suffice.  If it turns out this one indeed has 1969 or '68 GM colors that's close enough for me in this particular era.  Now if it was post war thru mid-60s I would need completely accurate factory colors.  That's just my thing....we're all different....we have choices so it's all good.


   
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Christopher Moroni
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@jack-dodds Exactly, no worries! 😀 

But I will add, with the launch of my company, CME, next year (early 2024) I will personally guarantee three things:

1) Accurate colors/tu-tones.

2) Accurate scaling, true to 1/43.

3) No to very little silver paint will be used. Chrome plating, BMF or photoetched will be preferred. Engineering is aware!

The first two offerings will be a 1/43 1956 Packard Clipper Custom 4-dr Sedan (as shown) and a 1/43 1957 Dodge Coronet Lancer 4-dr hardtop (as shown). Bot these 1:1s were once in my personal collection (therefore I have EVERY reference documented, photographed, etc..).

I should be (so I'm told ) able to have prototypes in hand within 2 weeks. I will of course post pics.  Price point targets are $135.00 (but don't hold me to that).

Stay tuned for more detail!

cme
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John Kuvakas
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How exciting! Consider me in line early!

John Kuvakas
Warrenton, VA


   
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Jack Dodds
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No kidding!  Wow...good for you; count me as "in line" for those two.


   
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John Quilter
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I like that Dodge four door hardtop.

John F. Quilter
Eugene, Oregon USA


   
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Christopher Moroni
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THANKS GUYS, I truly appreciate it.  Although I don't yet have the actual 1/43 prototypes, I can share a brief marketing video of our operation (I can't do any of this alone! ) highlighting our business strategy, plant layout but more importantly planned future 1/43 vehicle releases (all but 1 is from the 1950's ).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


   
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Ed Davis
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@chris 

What material will be used for models; white metal, resin, something else?

Ed Davis
Inverness, Illinois, USA


   
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