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PICS: I understand your position Lou and I recognize your right to an opinion
You are obviously an astute and observant collector and I mean that sincerely. My suggestion is that you pass on the model if it bothers you. I have a number of MOC woodies as well. The shades of wood differ from model to model. Clearly, there were numerous color schemes for the wood on the 1:1's (see below). Do any of us really know what "the right" one was?
All I'm saying is let's lighten up on Brooklin a bit. I'm not a shareholder or a dealer, just trying to encourage folks in the hobby. You've clearly been in the hobby long enough to know what you like and will buy. So have I. I'd love to see your collection. I'm sure it's beautiful and meaningful to you. I'm OK if this model is not in it. I hope you're OK if I have it in mine.
Can we be friends?
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John Kuvakas
Warrenton, VA
Do hear the start of an auction??
John Kuvakas
Warrenton, VA
And there's me thinking this was supposed to be a fun hobby!
And whilst we're on the subject of accuracy, the MOC T&C sedans have plaid and other patterned interiors - seats and door panels. This is not correct. The convertibles had ornate interiors whereas the sedans did not - plain wood door panels and seats in either single tone or two tone cloth/leather/Bedford Cord. Unfortunately the MOC model - beautiful as it is - was obviously modelled on a restored car. So many restored T&Cs have had convertible type interiors fitted to satisfy the owner's whims. The car Brooklin measured is a rare original example. As so many have said in the past, we are not forced to buy these models and I feel very lucky that model makers are out there making the damn things as there's no business model that shows anything other than a very small profit. So, Brooklin, NEO, Matrix, Autocult, et al, thank you and long may you continue to feel it's worth sweating buckets and earning peanuts to bring us these little gems.
Sure, bricks can be thrown at your efforts, but that's the easy bit - actually building the things is a difficult and sometimes thankless task.
That explains it then.
When we built our house we installed a mahogany front door. Looked great after clear-coating. The door faces southwest, so it gets a lot of sun in the winter, plus morning sun on most days. After about 12 years, it was looking shabby and faded. I had to sand it (both by hand and with a small orbital sander), stain it, and put a couple coats of sealer on again.
A few years ago it was faded again. Out came the sander, more stain, more sealer. Looks great again, for now.
So if Brooklin had access to a 70-year old unrestored T&C, it stands to reason that the paneling would be at least a bit sun-bleached after all this time.
Sure would be great to see a picture of the one they measured!
Oh, and it is ash and mahogany, check this out:
Interesting, Harve. "Dark panels on later models are decals."
John Kuvakas
Warrenton, VA
John I respect your opinion and value the insights you provide even if I may disagree from time to time! I love the passion of the members and have learned a great deal from this site over the years. Peace and good health to you my friend!
Ha ha! Thanks for the offer Randall. I have sold a few over the years but have kept the majority of them. BTW I have learned so much about the hobby from your excellent books.
I have also found many things wrong with Motor City models along with other manufacturers. I'm not trying to throw Brooklin under the bus and in fact I admire the direction they are taking by providing greater detail. Model reviews can be pretty subjective! I've read some negative comments on the new Buick however I have no problem with it. I do appreciate reading the negative as well as positive reviews and can make my final evaluation. I have also supported Brooklin through the years and own over 250 of their models.
I was just having a rant Lou...probably my age! I remember back around 1956 when Dinky Toys brought out the Ford Zodiac and Vauxhall Cresta. As kids of around 8 years old we immediately saw the Ford's rear window was the wrong shape and the Vauxhall was missing its hood ornament. 60 years on and nothing changes!
Well said, Lou. Thanks.
John Kuvakas
Warrenton, VA
Yes - odd, perhaps a Chrysler expert can explain that one.
What the art in old ads exhibit is the contrast between ash frame and mahogany panels, no matter what restorers have done since.