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PICS...Some Very Special Stutz'.....
The amazing 1928 Stutz Blackhawk Special LSR car in which Frank Lockhart unfortunately lost his life at approximately 225 m.p.h. on Feb. 22, 1928 on Daytona Beach....
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Jim Lattin and craftsman Jeb Scolman's running replica....
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Gustav Schumacher's outstanding 1928 "Stutz Special" based on a BB, built in 1930 and being used to tow a midget race car....
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At M.I.T. in 1939....
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On a used car lot in Boston that same year....
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And as found in 2005....
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The completely gorgeous 1929 Stutz Model "M" Lancefield Supercharged Coup?....
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And, of course, they made a few fire trucks, too....
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Great period ad Paul, and thanx fur the cue...
Awesome cars, thanks for posting these pic;
Gene...thanks for the Monday morning treat! Beautiful pics. That '29's a k.o.!
I'm curious -
Are you sure the first and second M.I.T. is the same car? Reason I ask is not only are the license plates different but it is located in a completely different location. And the headlights are different. At first I thought maybe the changes were to make it 'street-worthy', but then you showed it again as it was found in 2005 and it's back to looking like the first car. It just made me question how it could be modified and then go back so well to its original configuration. Curiosity killed the cat and all that, I guess.
No worries, Duncan. I hereby declare The Lounge a dead cat free zone. It's my guess is, and this....
is pure speculation on my part, that the more conventional looking lamps seen in the M.I.T. pic were added by a subsequent owner to improve his night vision.
The two cars appear absolutely identical in every other detail to me. The aftermarket E&J headlamps seen in the first pic, tho' very stylish in 1928, were horrendously inadequate when it came to lighting the way ahead.
If you look closely at the M.I.T shot, it appears that the bullet shaped E&J lamps are just barely visible behind the front tire and can be seen clearly in that rearwardly relocated position in the car on the used car lot.
This shot better shows them still on the car at the M.I.T. location....
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You can clearly see the radiator mascot that was not present in the first shot, too. As unique as this car is, I doubt that there was ever anything else out there quite like it.
P.S. That difference in the plates is easily explained. Gustav Schumacher, the builder of the car, was the owner of Schumacher Motor Services, in Yonkers, N.Y., hence the original tag is a New York plate. The 1939 plates are from Rhode Island. In both of these states, the tags stayed with the OWNER of the car and are transferred from one car to the next, unlike some states (like California) where the tags stayed with the CAR as it changed owners.
Hmm, yes I do see those lights now in that followup picture
The car's lights did get modified/moved around a bit, didn't they. Not only does it appear some other headlights were added later but, in that last picture, not only are those headlights gone, but the other lights were moved. In every previous shot they were beside and slightly behind the grille. In the last photo, they are positioned way ahead of the grille. Interesting evolution.
Yup. Sometimes stuff happens when a car is around for 82 years!
That's one of those cases where you wish the car could speak
Its history would have to be fascinating!