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David Green
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Provence Moulage and Starter from France.

I too have been collecting resin models since the 1970s and have never seen signs of deterioration. That is more than I can say for my Dinky, Rio and Solido diecast models. The only problem that I have seen with resin models is metal photo-etched parts coming unglued with time, something fairly easy to repair with magnifier and the correct water based adhesive.



   
(@Alan Wright)
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Sorry, David, but I don't have any.



   
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I don't know exactly what causes the degradation, but it is a fact that some resin models...

... have had these types of issues. In fact, it's been discussed on this forum frequently since resin model cars started to become competitive with diecast.

The only resin model car I have considered buying thus far was a 1/18 scale model of the 1955 Lincoln Futura concept upon which the TV Batmobile was based. As I was trying to decide whether or not I wanted to order one, the first production run started to experience paint discoloration issues. After I read about this, I decided to stick to diecast metal models and avoid resin. That's just one example of the car models I've read about with these types of problems.

Incidentally, I didn't say that resin was new. I only said that resin model cars are RELATIVELY new. Also, I don't know what causes the issues I described, but it doesn't seem to affect ALL resin models at this point, much like "diecast cancer" doesn't affect all diecast models.

I don't know the chemical makeup of resin either, but I do know that it is a synthetic material, a type of plastic, and ALL plastic and synthetic materials degrade eventually.

Please understand that I'm not wishing any ills on resin collectors or their models. However, I do feel that they are terribly overpriced, considering what they provide, and they're not good for the general model car market. It's just my opinion, though, and if your opinion differs from mine, that's fine.



   
(@d-crowe)
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Enjoy what you have, sir. It isn't like die cast metal OR resin cars are hard to find.

And the thrill of the hunt is a huge part of the enjoyment, too.



   
(@Alan Wright)
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I'm sorry, David, but I don't have any pictures of the affected resin models I've seen or...

... read about. However, as I mentioned above, they have been discussed on this forum at least a few times since resin model cars became popular, and most of those postings included pictures.

I'd also recommend that you "Google" the issue. I'd give you a reference if I could, but I don't usually keep those kinds of things when I read articles online.

You might also want to visit a comic book store or two. Most of the big ones have sold resin figure models in the past (though I haven't kept up with them in the recent past, so I don't know whether or not they're still carrying them generally). My impression is that the brittleness I mentioned has occurred much more frequently with the sci-fi and superhero statues than with the model cars. I don't know what the reason for that is, but I'd guess it's probably either the difference in age or the differences in the ways the objects are displayed and handled. Model cars, in my experience, tend to be much more delicately treated than figure models.

Of course, it could also very well be a combination of the two.



   
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That's great, Bob! I'm glad for you. However, I've never seen paint "rash" with resin models...

... either. I've only seen discoloration issues.

The sci-fi and superhero models that have had this problem are fairly easy to correct, because they can usually be repainted easily and correctly with a brush. As a result, those issues don't usually get a lot of "press." However, if you speak to the right people, you will definitely come across a few who have had the problem pop up.

Hopefully, you'll be lucky enough to avoid these kinds of problems.

as for me, I'd just prefer to avoid the material.



   
(@Alan Wright)
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Yeah, David, I agree with that completely. I also do enjoy what I have very much...

... but not as often as I'd like!



   
(@john-in-az)
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So here is my take having had my hands on 1000's of models

First off, brittleness is becoming ever evident on 1/18 diecast METAL cars.... not the bodies so much as they are metal but the rest of the cars are becoming problematic.

Older Highway 61 cars from 10 years ago are starting to break into pieces upon disassembly. The material they used is much more brittle than Autoworld/Ertl/Yatming/Sunstar models from the same time period. So I wouldn't say its a huge deal but its a materials deal.

Other things are paint.... while I have resin models in my collection the oldest one is just 3 years old, well 3years 8 months and its still got perfect paint. Cannot be said for some of the metal releases as most serious paint rash I have found is a metallurgy issue and not a paint issue. The term, gassing out, comes to mind but serious "cancer" is a metal issue you will never see with a resin model.

The problem I see with resin models are they might become brittle over time but think about it, no opening features leaves no problem even with it becoming brittle. I am curious to see how the AutoArt C7 Corvettes will fair over time as they are a composite (plastic/resin) and if they will warp. Ex poster Marty Johnson had a 3D printed Ford Econoline he build in 1/18 scale that over time kept warping. I had a 3D printed hood for the 71 Plymouth Road Runner/GTX done that warped badly within 30 days. (pic before it warped horribly)

Because the resin market is relatively new I guess we will have to wait and see. I however, in all the resin models I have repainted (probably 20ish) have not seen any issue with color fading.

Just thought I would add my 2 cents.
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(@carcass1996)
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John Shamblin
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I'll chime in here...

I've been building and collecting model cars since the mid 50s. After auctioning off my entire collection before moving last year, I started collecting die casts again. So far, I've got about 150 in my collection, but I've only bought one resin model, the 66 Ford Galaxie. The detail is nice, but I didn't know that there would be no opening hood, for me . Here's a link to my modest site, if yall are interested:

http://www.shamblesmodels.com/

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John Shamblin
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My features always opened.

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That's what the girls liked Smile



   
(@bob-jackman)
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I'm not familiar with these models. Where are they available?



   
(@d-crowe)
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Are the wheels sizes correct? They look smaller than original to me.



   
(@Alan Wright)
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Yes, John, I agree with you; both options have their own inherent problems...

... I used to collect and build plastic model kits years ago and had quite a large collection. I enjoyed the hobby tremendously, but as I got older, I found that I had less and less time to spend on it with each passing year. Eventually, I got to the point that I had dozens of kits piling up in their boxes and no time available to assemble them. Then, I discovered diecast metal models and I was completely won over! Not only did I not have to spend the extra (enjoyable, nonetheless) time assembling and painting them, but they also had opening and operating features! The features made the hobby all the more enjoyable for me.

I also discovered, as time passed, that my plastic kits were becoming extremely brittle, with many falling apart any time I touched them.

I discovered years after I began my diecast collection that they had their issues too, but as far as I was concerned, the compromise was worthwhile.

I just don't see the point of going back to plastic models and, in some cases, paying more for them, when they just don't offer the same value.



   
(@carcass1996)
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CMF is one of the Modelcargroup brands placed somewhere between BoS and Neo, with BoS being entry-level and Neo the premium segment (at least that was an idea couple of years ago, as it hasn't been made anything in 1/18 for some time under Neo label).
Their models are available via American Excellence in the USA and Modelcarworld in Europe.



   
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