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Hello,

I have a question about Bud Faubel's '65 HEMI HONKER AWB Coronet with carburetors.

I know the AWB HEMI HONKER was running in the carbureted configuration early in the '65 season.

Is anyone aware that ACME/Supercar Collectibles made a 1/18 scale replica with the carbureted version?

On the back of the 1/18 Bud Faubel AWB Injection '65 Coronet Box (#50801) is a picture showing the carbureted car and the item number "#50802 CARBURETED".
I've never seen a 1/18 scale 1965 HEMI HONKER AWB Coronet with a carburetor since those cars came out.

Maybe someone knows more about this and more specific - thanks.

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"When accelerating, the tears of emotion must flow horizontally towards to the ears."
"Good (rally) drivers have the remains of flies on the side windows."
"A car is only fast enough if you stand in front of it in the morning and are afraid to unlock it."
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@chris
Many thanks for your support.

I've already tried for send a PM to Marty/Marlowe. Unfortunately, the function has not yet been activated for me.

So we really have to wait for "Dr. Marlowe" to appear here ... 😉 

"When accelerating, the tears of emotion must flow horizontally towards to the ears."
"Good (rally) drivers have the remains of flies on the side windows."
"A car is only fast enough if you stand in front of it in the morning and are afraid to unlock it."
Walter Röhrl


   
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@jabba 

I think I can help you.....

-Chris

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Marty Johnson
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I'm not aware of a carbureted version of Bud Faubel's Hemi Honker ever being offered by Supercar.  I'm sending out some feelers on your behalf.  If it changes, I'll be sure to post any updated information I can find.  

They didn't do the turbocharged car either. 😉 

Bud Faubel twin turbo

 

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@chris
That sounds great. Take the time you need. I am thankful for every help.

@marty-johnson
I found it strange that I had never seen this version as a 1/18 diecast car anywhere in all those years. I only saw the notice on the back of the box by coincidence. At the mean time I think that the box designers were quicker with their ideas than the mold and decal manufacturers.

I would really appreciate it if you could get any information here.

Perhaps Scott & Jim (former owners of supercar1.com) are also reading along here and know more about it.

Why I'm even asking: I'm planning a custom build with a carbureted HEMI HONKER. And if it later turned out that this version of supercar1 did exist after all, I would have been better off investing my time in other projects.

For example the turbocharged version. Here we can be sure that this has not been made by supercar1 before. However, this would make it a bit more difficult for me due to unavailable references (engine) at the moment. Here in Europe/Germany it is difficult to get such informations.

Luckily there is the Internet and such nice and helpful guys like you 😉 👍 ... otherwise it would almost not be possible to do something like this.

"When accelerating, the tears of emotion must flow horizontally towards to the ears."
"Good (rally) drivers have the remains of flies on the side windows."
"A car is only fast enough if you stand in front of it in the morning and are afraid to unlock it."
Walter Röhrl


   
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Marty Johnson
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@jabba - I contacted Jim Thoren on your behalf.  Jim said he wasn't sure, but if his memory is correct, the Bud Faubel carburetor model was never produced. 

If you want to do the turbocharged version of the Hemi Honker, send me an email and I'll email reference photos for you.  I have some good ones.  marlowemar "at" aol.com

ACME is selling the twin-turbo Ford 429 Boss engine used in the Ohio George Montgomery 1969 Mustang as a stand-alone unit.  I would imagine the parts on that engine would be very helpful to use on the turbocharged Hemi Honker.   

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Thank you very much for your inquiry to Jim. Well, then they must have "forgotten" about this carbureted version for some reasons. It wouldn't have been a lot of work. All the parts for it were already there. Ok, then I will build this version for my collection. To made the decals are a small challenge. I can work with CorelDraw (vector graphics) a bit, but I lack the implementation to print decals similar to an Alps or Oki printer. Well, time will tell ... 😉 .

Thank you very much for your offer via email to exchange more informations and pictures. I'll be happy to come back to that.

I would be interested in the turbocharged version as a later project. Better to get all the parts now and put them aside. Who knows how long you can still get them.
Thanks for the tip about Montgomery's '69 Mustang dual turbocharger. I checked and some parts might be useful. I've also seen that individual turbochargers are available in 1/18 scale resin. Much else will probably only consist of round tubes with different diameters anyway.
I'm not sure if there are '65 Dodge Coronets hdtp 1/18 with stock wheelbase. I only found 1/18 AWB Coronets on the fly.
If not it would be a slightly larger project with some body modifications.

"When accelerating, the tears of emotion must flow horizontally towards to the ears."
"Good (rally) drivers have the remains of flies on the side windows."
"A car is only fast enough if you stand in front of it in the morning and are afraid to unlock it."
Walter Röhrl


   
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@jabba - There is no stock wheelbase 1965 Dodge Coronet in 1:18 scale.  You'll have to take one of the AWB cars and convert it back to the standard wheelbase. As you can guess, it's a LOT of work but can be done.   

I have a vendor that I use who will print decals using an A.L.P.S. printer.  All you need to do is size them to 1:18 scale and email the file and he'll mail the printed decals to you. 


   
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@marty - I've ordered a turbocharged 429 Boss from Montgomery's '69 Mustang 1/18.
Fortunately someone here in Europe had sold this engine. Imports from the USA are always very expensive for us Europeans.
A lot of postage and then there are usually customs duties and VAT.
But what the heck, you don't treat yourself to anything else... 😉 .

I'm not as familiar with metal processing as you are... I originally come from plastic model making.
I only discovered the 1/18 scale for myself 1-2 years ago. With increasing age, the models are getting bigger ... 😉 .

The change to the standard wheelbase would be a bit more of a challenge, but also very interesting. I often have the idea of ​​casting the body in resin and then working on it further in resin. I don't know enough about how to permanently bond diecast metal parts together. I need to read through all of your build reports again.

I was just writing here when I remembered your Chrisman Roadster conversion ...
and first I had to study and enjoy it again in peace - also a very nice conversion with a nice Logghe chassis.

Thanks for your tip about your vendor.
Then maybe I could send my drafts to him. I think I read something in another forum that someone in Netherlands can do something like that, but I'm not sure.
There would be a solution for decals to be printed, that's very good to know.

"When accelerating, the tears of emotion must flow horizontally towards to the ears."
"Good (rally) drivers have the remains of flies on the side windows."
"A car is only fast enough if you stand in front of it in the morning and are afraid to unlock it."
Walter Röhrl


   
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@jabba - I would think it would be easier to convert the diecast Dodge body to a standard wheelbase than it would be to create a body in resin.  I bond the metal diecast parts using JB Weld epoxy.  The adhesive qualities are good and it can be filed and sanded for smoothness.  


   
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