The Diecast Zone · Model Car Club Since 1997

Diecast Collector Forums

Eight forums, every scale, and thirty years of shop talk — new arrivals, restorations, reviews, and the finds you won’t see posted anywhere else, with the full archive back to 2002 restored and searchable. Free to Register.

8Forums
195,000+Topics
1,276,000+Posts
10,000+Members
1997Research From

QUESTION: What defi...
 
Notifications
Clear all

[Closed] QUESTION: What defines a model from a toy car?

14 Posts
7 Users
0 Reactions
15 Views
Marty Johnson
(@marty-johnson)
Illustrious Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 27190
Topic starter  

QUESTION: What defines a model from a toy car?



   
Rich Sufficool
(@rich-sufficool)
Illustrious Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 17568
 

reasonable accuracy, content and modeling a specific marque.

or some combination thereof.

Although these are representing real cars, they are toys

photo no longer available

photo no longer available

photo no longer available

These are a gray area. I would call them models:

photo no longer available

photo no longer available

This is a phantom but has enough attention to scale and content that I'd call it a model

photo no longer available

This is a phantom I'd call a toy

photo no longer available



   
(@Ken Allen)
Joined: 1 second ago
Posts: 0
 

This!

photo no longer available



   
(@Ken Allen)
Joined: 1 second ago
Posts: 0
 

Gotta love those toys from the 50's & 60's, not to mention the prices they are commanding



   
(@Paul Normand)
Joined: 1 second ago
Posts: 0
 

You're right, Ken, but I don't think it was quite what Marlowe was asking!



   
Marty Johnson
(@marty-johnson)
Illustrious Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 27190
Topic starter  

That MIGHT be a toy.



   
(@franklemire)
Famed Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 3006
 

Don't toy with me..............



   
(@Doug Switz)
Joined: 1 second ago
Posts: 0
 

"Old" & "rare" can turn "not-so-great" into valuable. It applies to all medians, from model cars to traditional art. I simply can't believe some of prices I've seen some "art" on shows like the "Antique Roadshow" claim to be worth for example. I'm not saying the models shown above are bad, but collector's ideas of what is valuable and desirable change with time and rarity. In the art world especially, it also is heavily influenced by peer pressure and not wanting to appear to be uneducated or unrefined (the Emperor's New Clothes?).



   
Chris Sweetman
(@chris-sweetman)
Noble Member
Joined: 30 years ago
Posts: 433
 

A toy car is made to be played with not placed on a pedestal.


Autominologist residing in the Robin Hood County
Nottinghamshire England UK


   
(@jimsc)
New Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 0
 

Models are plastic kits or promo's, Toy cars are metal.



   
Brush
(@brush)
Illustrious Member
Joined: 30 years ago
Posts: 13766
 

So all my $ 100+ metal diecast are toys, Jim?



   
Rich Sufficool
(@rich-sufficool)
Illustrious Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 17568
 

Metal and plastic......[PIC]

Metal promo:

photo no longer available

plastic toys:

photo no longer available

photo no longer available

photo no longer available



   
(@jimsc)
New Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 0
 

Maybe it should be something you assemble is a model? And I believe the only reason die cast cars of the stature they are today (2012) are called toys, is because transportaion companies shipping rates depend on the "classification" of the merchandise they haul. We once had a quote on a shipment that the trucking company changed - due to they found out the merchandise was collectibles, not toys. 100% True. The transportaion companies must figure any damage claim would be higher if the merchandise was collectible, and was not really a toy....? I guess I got off the true subject here, but wanted to share this.



   
(@franklemire)
Famed Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 3006
 

It is mostly semantics....

Toys are generally defined as objects that you 'play' with. Those objects may or may not be representational of actual objects.

Models are generally defined as scaled representations of actual objects.

Since, if you care to, you can 'play' with any scale model, all models can be toys. Some toys however are not scale representatives of anything - like a Slinky - so not all toys can be considered models.



   
Share: