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The supercar1 Sox & Martin cars that came out that where released by Supercar1 Diecast the Plymouth Cuda's three of the four were done on Highway61 moulds, one was done on an Ertl mould. The Ertl mould is not as detailed does not have an opening trunk and uses dogleg door hinges. 

Here is the break down of the Supercar1 Sox & Martin Plymouth Cuda's: 

1970 Plymouth Cuda Supercar1 did two releases the first one was an Ertl mould, the second one was commissioned through Ertl but was done on a Highway61 mould. 

1971 Plymouth Cuda Supercar1 did one release through ACME that was done on a Highway61 mould, this car has the updated correct three hood pins across the front of the hood and it has the correct exhaust cutouts on the rear under the rear bumper. 

1972 Plymouth Cuda Supercar1 did one release through ACME that was done on a Highway61 mould, this car for some reason did not use the corrected hood that the 1971 release used as their are only two hood pins on the front of the hood instead of three. 

Here are some photos of the Ertl mould 1970 Plymouth Cuda Sox & Martin and of the Ertl commissioned Highway61 mould 1970 Plymouth Cuda Sox & Martin both commissioned by Supercar1. 

Ertl Mould on left Highway61 mould on right

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Ertl mould on left Highway61 mould on right

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Highway61 mould on left and Ertl mould on right in both photos

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Ertl mould on left Highway61 mould on right

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Ertl mould on left Highway61 mould on right

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Ertl mould on left Highway61 mould on right

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Ertl mould on left Highway61 mould on right

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Ertl mould on left Highway61 mould on right

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Ertl mould on left Highway61 mould on right

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Ertl mould on left Highway61 mould on right

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Ertl mould on left Highway61 mould on right

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Ertl mould on left Highway61 mould on right

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Ertl mould on left Highway61 mould on right

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Ertl mould on left Highway61 mould on right

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Continued from above post. 

 

Ertl mould on left Highway61 mould on right

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Ertl mould on left Highway61 mould on right

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Ertl mould on left Highway61 mould on right

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Ertl mould on left Highway61 mould on right

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Ertl mould on left Highway61 mould on right

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Ertl mould on left Highway61 mould on right

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Excellent comparison! The highway61 tooling renders a much nicer model than the Ertl. Ertl is capable of making a finely detailed precision replica but their costs go up substantially. How are these two priced against each other John?



   
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Yep, that explains everything including my confusion; I had no idea HW61 produced any of these.     Also, I see that you've changed the year on your 1972 Cuda video; Marty correctly noted that it's a '72, not '71.    Nice info, video & pics John, thanks.  Very cool!  😎 😎 😎 



   
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@perrone1 The pricing on each when I purchased them from Supercar1 but they were purchased a few years apart from each other, the Ertl version was $80 dollars and the Highway61 version that was commissioned by Supercar1 through Ertl was $250 dollars.



   
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@chris I have three of them and when trying to pull of the information on them the years sometimes gets mixed up as the grill is the biggest difference but in my inventory they are just listed by year. I always get the 71 and 72 grilles mixed up when pulling them out.

 

The 71 and 72 ACME had acquired the Highway61 moulds from my understanding so the boxes list them as ACME but the cars match my two 1970 Cudas for markings and moulds and they are Highway61 releases. 


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@perrone1 The pricing on each when I purchased them from Supercar1 but they were purchased a few years apart from each other, the Ertl version was $80 dollars and the Highway61 version that was commissioned by Supercar1 through Ertl was $250 dollars.

Thanks John. That's about what I envisioned. I collect 1/16th scale farm tractors. Main focus is John Deere and most of them are made by Ertl. Their standard model production is from $65. to about $85-90. Their Precision lines are averaging $200 to $450+.

 The difference is amazing.

Standard:

(15) 1956 Model 720 Hi Crop Two Cylinder Club Expo

Intermediary:

(18) 1958 Model 730 Hi Crop Two Cylinder Club Expo

Precision:

(3) 1950 Model G Hi Crop JD Collectors Center #3

 



   
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@perrone1 Nice detail on the higher end John Deeres.



   
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@john3976 

Yeppers. Not quite enough to plow the fields but close! Smile  



   
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Didn't know there were so many Sox and Martin Cudas made.  I have the 1971 Cuda.

Highway 61 1971 Plymouth Cuda Pro Stock Sox and Martin(21)


   
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"Didn't know there were so many Sox and Martin Cudas made."

Right!    Try collecting just 1/18 Sox & Martin cars - HA!    I have a few and briefly thought, many years ago, that perhaps I'd collect ALL of them.   

HA!   Good luck.... there may be as many as 30 different 1/18 replicas wearing the Sox & Martin livery.    😬 😬 😬 



   
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@grockwood The 1970 release above with the working hood pins was Supercar1 release #11 on the box for this car in my collection. 

 

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@grockwood This is my box for the 1971 Sox & Martin Cuda, this one they corrected the hood with the front center hood pin but for some reason they did not use this hood on the following one the 1972 version. ACME by this time had acquired Highway61 moulds so while the mould is from highway61 ACME is technically the producer of the release #20 the 1971 and release #21 the 1972 version, both the release #20 and release #21 were limited to 504 issued. 

 

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Here on the bottom of the box you see they are now labeled ACME but ACME had acquired the Highway61 moulds and this car is from the Highway61 mould. The same with release 21 ACME is on the box but the mould was Highway61. 

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The left photo on the bottom left side shows the 1-504. 

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Here you can see the updated remolded hood with the 5th hood pin, the center hood pin is not functional on the model. 

 

 


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I know what you mean Chris.   After 6, I gave up.  I was also going to collect all the Thunderbolts and all the Cobra Jet Mustangs but they kept coming out with new ones.  Had to give up. 

 

1963 Chevrolet Impala Z11 Pro Stock Sox & Martin , by Supercars(T16)
1965 Plymouth Belvedere Fuel Injected  AWB Sox and Martin Supercars(T16)
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Sox and Martin(T4)
1970 Plymouth Duster Pro Stock Sox & Martin , by Supercars (T6)
1971 Plymouth Cuda Pro Stock Sox and Martin(21)
1971 Plymouth Road Runner Sox and Martin(T4)

 



   
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Posted by: @grockwood

"I know what you mean Chris.   After 6, I gave up."

Cool



   
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