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05/08/2013 3:42 pm
Barry Levittan: Because of your post regarding the Lincoln MKZ, I went to the...
... Lincoln Motor Car store today to view one up close and personal. The sales person did everything he could to get me to drive one (I didn't) but I did sit in the car and listen to his pitch. I must admit, that car is impressive! It seriously... seriously... deserves consideration for a luxury car purchase. From just my limited experience with the car, so far I'd say Ford has REALLY done their homework on this one. I'm going to go back and drive the car. It will be interesting to see if the rest of the car lives up to what I've seen thus far.
As impressed with the car as I am, I do, however, have one major criticizm with the car. It is front wheel drive. (Note: With the cancellation of the Australian Falcon, Ford only has one rear wheel drive car in their entire world wide inventory; the Mustang) If I ever purchased one, it would have to be with the all wheel drive option. Because of the driving dynamics inherent in the design, I am NOT a fan of front wheel drive.
Still, I can see why you're enamored with the car. From what I've experienced, it is justified. I'm curious how it drives.
05/08/2013 4:39 pm
Isn't this car made in Mexico?
05/08/2013 5:38 pm
Glad you like it, Marlowe! It is a stunner.
FWD is a key feature here in the Northeast. RWD just doesn't cut it in snow, and AWD adds cost, weight, complexity, and a MPG penalty to a RWD vehicle.
What color did you see the MKZ in? I think it looks best in the darker colors.
I also think the V-6 suits the character of this car better than the 4-cylinder turbo.
Barry Levittan
Long Island, NY
05/08/2013 5:39 pm
Yes, Tom. Still "American" in my eyes as Ford is a USA-based company.
Barry Levittan
Long Island, NY
05/08/2013 8:45 pm
It drives like a dream....
I drove an AWD version and it handles like a cat on a curve.... really smooth and very capable. The car is very well finished and is a total pleasure to drive over londg distances. I drove the car from Palm Springs to Santa Barbara and back without incident or even noise... Ford... Allan Mulally.. has hit this one out of the park.He is responsible for bringing Ford bsck by producing their excellemt European line (Fiesta, Focus, Transit Connect,and Fusion/MKZ (Mondeo) to replace the tottering US nameplates here.
05/08/2013 9:34 pm
Marlowe, you are right about needing to have RWD for
Lincoln's such as this. FWD is generally just a poor choice for cars like this (and with modern traction control RWD does very well in snow) and there's the fact that FWD cars are ALWAYS an unbalanced design, That's why top performance and luxury cars have been overwhelmingly RWD cars.
I would say this Lincoln should offer an optional smooth, powerful Lincoln V-8 also, to to be able to really compete as a luxury car with high performance.
06/08/2013 4:58 am
The Lincoln MKZ & MKX will be made in China starting 2015
So.. like most of our diecast the Lincolns will have the "made in china" sticker somewhere on the undercarriage, lol.
06/08/2013 9:21 am
Please tell me your KIDDING right?
I REALLY hope and pray that Lincoln does not out source to China! If so I will NEVER consider the brand again. Nothing against China, but from my experience with after market automotive parts made in China I will NOT by auto related parts and definitely NOT a car made in CHINA, sorry! All the parts that I bought failed either within a year or slightly after a year. This is where the same AMERICAN MADE original part lasted 11-13 years and 180.000-200,000 + thousand miles of use! SAD is the only term I can think of as now. 🙁
06/08/2013 10:23 am
+1. Very sad. I hope to hell not.
06/08/2013 11:40 am
Lincoln will be manufacturing in China for SALE in China not outsourcing!
Ford is expanding Lincoln to an International brand like Buick, Cadillac, etc.
Barry Levittan
Long Island, NY
06/08/2013 11:40 am
I have a 2013 MKX which I am quite pleased with. I hope you are wrong about the new ones being built in China.
06/08/2013 12:04 pm
Dunno for sure, I am not a Ford employee. It will not be strange. Ford builds their Mazda in china.
I read that Lincolns will be built in China starting 2015 from more than 1 source. As Barry said, maybe Ford is building a Chinese Lincoln. Most if not all Ford parts are built in china anyways. Ford and a chinese automaker has been doing business (ventures) since the 90's.
06/08/2013 12:43 pm
Why not manufacter HERE and SHIP TO CHINA like most of the ...
Japanese cars! Why do we have make a Plant in China, create jobs for Chinese while its an AMERICAN product? We buy almost every damned thing you can find which is MADE IN CHINA. So i dont want to hear its not "fair" BS! The way other car brands are made on THEIR turf and imported to where ever should apply to US Cars as well. Lets build 100% of them right here and create JOBS for our own people, and IMPORT them to China. WOW what a novel concept huh? This works off most of the other car makers, why not us?
Topic starter
06/08/2013 1:00 pm
Gentlemen, please don't worry. Ford IS building cars in China, but only for Chinese consumption.
The Chinese auto market is the worlds largest. All of the major manufacturers are setting up shop to build cars in China to take advantage of the rapidly growing auto market. Ford (nor Buick) will not export Chinese built cars to the USA.
Topic starter
06/08/2013 1:08 pm
My understanding is the Chinese will not allow imports into their country. Also, don't forget...
... that most of the Japanese cars sold here are built here too. In fact, most Japanese cars have more American content than most American cars. The cost would be too high and they would not be able to compete with the low prices of Chinese built cars.
Some have said the "profits stay in Japan." Not true. These are publicly held companies so the stocks can, and are globally held and traded.
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