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14/08/2008 9:50 am
Is the Auction system here getting to be like ebay?
This may ruffle some feathers, but I see several listings on the auction site here as MIB with loose parts, glue spots from reattached parts and missing script. Also saw one rated Excellent that need cleaning and had a part missing.
This is something I would expect on ebay, which is why I carefully read the descriptions, but not something I would expect here.
14/08/2008 10:04 am
I'm curious...
...do you mean to say that the faults of each model are listed in the description? Or are you referring to an item or two that you received? If it is the former then the seller simply forgot to toggle I'm guessing.
This site will always be better than ebay.....c'mahn!!!
14/08/2008 10:08 am
Thomas while some moan about Ebay I have bought MANY die-casts from there
And only have a small % of problems. In all cases the seller gave a partial refund which was acceptible! In one case the woman actually refunded my entire purchase price less shipping! Imagine that? I told her that it wasnt necessary, but she insisted and told me she "Inhertited" these so its all found money and she was sorry she missed the "problems" prior to listing it! On the contrary, I bought only a hand full of models here over the past 10 years and aside from my excellent dealings with the three Bobs, White, Kaempf, and Ames, many of the other purchases weren't satisfactory and the models arrived far less then described! 🙁 One ALWAYS has to read the entire item description to be assured of what he/she is getting!
14/08/2008 10:39 am
Tom, they all appear to be from the same person.....
And they don't appear to be graded to our standard. As the others have stated and you are doing - read the descriptions very carefully! X-(
14/08/2008 1:12 pm
I don't think D4C can / should police the description statement of auction items
As long as the seller is available for Q&A about their auction item.... and honest, what more is required / necessary for the buyer. 😐
14/08/2008 1:22 pm
Everybody I have ever dealt with here is Stand Up....
If it doesn't feel right ask questions, or don't bid!
14/08/2008 3:49 pm
Completely agree............
furthermore, buy from somebody you trust or don't bid at all.
Many people have full trust buying on Ebay but when I was in the "Golden collecting frenzy" for every FM or DM that was not in my collection, I have been burnt many times.
OK...I have been reimbursed minus the shipping fees...it was better than nothing.
14/08/2008 11:43 pm
Yes, they are listed in the description.
Some right off, and some towards the bottom of the description.
14/08/2008 11:47 pm
Many of you seem to be missing the point.
Is it OK to list a car as MIB if it has a missing part or had a sloppy repair done?
15/08/2008 12:18 am
Same here Phil.
15/08/2008 12:19 am
No, that is unacceptable. It's a model in "good" or "distressed" condition IMO.
15/08/2008 1:52 am
Maybe, the models condition was listed wrong....
What does it really matter? If the seller is truthfull and honest in the description....
No it "should" not be listed as Mint, in that case
D4C is far from Ebay. not even caparable.
Usually less than 100 models listed here, compared to 1000's on Ebay
JMO
15/08/2008 2:05 am
Thomas, I recently purchased a '55 Olds on the auction that was listed that way and had a missing spotlight.
When I received the car it was indeed in beautiful condition and the seller had found the spotlight and it was included. A little super glue and it was ready to go.
I am extrememly happy with my Olds and don't feel it was misrepresented.
I think a car can be excellent or referred to as the basic car being in beautiful condition but with some missing part as long as it is clearly stated in the description.
Sometimes we have an extra damaged model laying around that may have the part needed to make the auction car complete.
I have an extra DM '34 Packard LeBaron that is in Excellent condition except for broken bumpers. If I can find a similar car for peanuts that is missing a hood ornament or something minor I could combine the two and have a nice model.
MIB should mean exactly that but there should be a way to convey condition except for a minor part that could be obtained from another source.
I also have a perfect FM Bentley-Franay that is missing a spotlight. If I can find that part I'll have a complete model.
USAF 1958-62
15/08/2008 4:38 am
Come on here guys, MIB is MIB. What's not to understand?? If it's not Mint in the box, it's not Mint in the box. List it under one of the other categories and explain what's wrong with it.As for comparing this auction to Ebay, I've bought and sold hundreds of diecasts on ebay with just as good or better results as the D4C auction.