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John Merritt
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PICs - Daily Dose of Diecast...Monday

1969 Dodge Super Bee


John Merritt
South Lyon, Michigan - USA


   
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Great Pics John

And this 69 Dodge is awesome. The copper-poly paint job is the best of any on die cast that I've ever seen. If memory serves me correctly, this issue was on, then withdrawn, and then returned for a very short time. Some here missed out on this one because of that.



   
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This is such a great model but I wish DM had put white lettered tires on it.



   
Chris Novak
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A 1969 Dodge performance car from the factory would have had redline tires as the high performance option for tires. white letters came out in 1970 from Goodyear, followed by Firestone soon after.



   
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I agree Randy. It would look better. Chalk that one up to licensing costs. DM was required to pay licensing fees for the use of GoodYear logos on tires, (and thus, the packaging). Usually it was several cars for one fee, so we had to pick and choose which cars got the lettered tires. The cars that only came with the RWL tires usually got the nod. These Dodges had several options.



   
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So MOPAR made them available in 1970 while other makes had them in 1969? DM produced...

...1969 Mustangs and Camaros with RWL tires. Is that incorrect?



   
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A-ha! It all boiled down to licensing fees...



   
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That's one of my most favorite DM Mopar"muscle cars" It's even nicer "live"

As that color combination is hard to capture in pictures. It is just perfect IMO. The tan interior is complimented by the copper poly? (I think thats the colors' name). A nice departure from ALL BLACK interiors which is typical of muscle cars from this Era! 10 star MUST HAVE model in my 1:24th scale book Smile



   
Chris Novak
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Yes, Chevy offered white letter polyglas tires on Camaros Chevelles, and maybe Corvettes as an option, in 1969. they were not the high end fiberglass belted tires, and Chevy also offered the red and white stripe tires for high performance equipped cars.
Mopar did not offer the raised white letter performance tires until 1970.

I don't know about Ford, they may have offered the same lettered tires as Chevy.
All of them went to fiberglas belted raised white letter tires on hipo cars by 1970. everyone who replaced tires after 1969 used the raised white letters (myself included) as these were more common than the redlines, and available in more/wider sizes.



   
(@Randy Portwood)
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Interesting stuff! Thank you for sharing your knowledge!!



   
(@Sal Lomma)
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Outstanding



   
Chris Novak
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you are correct, color code T5 copper Poly.



   
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Not so sure Randy. The redlines DM used were not branded so no licensing fee required. Is this assumption correct Rick? 1969 Mopars did not have RWL's per Chris Novak's post above so their performance tire was the redline. I have a set of redlines on my Super Bee thanks to Hollis Cornell. Either way, the copper Super Bee looks great.



   
Chris Novak
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i don't want to be the guy who threw Rick H. under the licensing bus!

I think he was referring to adding white letter tires to the model per suggestion (which would look good by the way, most of them had these after the redlines wore out). and any time you have a logo, the owner wants their cut.
My guess as to why these had blackwalls, maybe be just that the factory had none or screwed up. always happens. However, new buyers could opt for any number of standard tires on their Super Bees. Black walls, white walls, redlines.
just tell the dealer. many did not like the redline tires look. And blackwalls were cheaper.



   
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