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17/06/2024 4:18 pm
If you haven't seen the Ford vs Ferrari movie released in 2019, please watch it tonight. It is a mostly true story of Caroll Shelby, Ken Miles, and the Cobra racing team beating Ferrari at Le Mans.
The Ford GT 40's were great looking, but the Ferrari 330 P3/4 cars were absolutely beautiful (and fast)
I am kinda obsessed with them, so as a model car collector, I wanted to get a collection of the best, most detailed models of the Ferrari P3, and discovered, as usual, the best models are very pricey, but I have managed to get some of the best ones to add to my collection.
The first 3 images are from the Ford vs Ferrari movie.
The first 2 movie images are showing the Ferrari P3's being prepped for racing in the Ferrari production shop.
The third movie image is when Caroll Shelby and Ken Miles are watching the Ferrari P3's roll by before the start of the race, and Ken Miles looks at Caroll Shelby and say's
"If this was a beauty contest, we just lost".
* Lots more pics, so please scroll down *
So far, I was able to acquire the #20 and #21 Looksmart Ferrari P3 coupes (I believe Looksmart only made these 2 in this form), and the 2 Redline models, which are the #20 coupe and a Spider without a racing number on it, so it is either a media presentation car, or one sold from Ferrari to another race team (Harv?).
I also was able to snag the newly released Kess Ferrari 350 Can Am Spider #4, which is a converted P3 for Can Am racing when the Le Mans new rule came out that prohibited motors over 3 liters (reduced from 4 liters) unless homologated, (Harv again please?) and the details on this model are phenomenal.....look at the brackets holding the spare tire on.
Also pictured is the MG model of the Ferrari Can Am Spider, and the Contact models Thomassima custom built Ferrari (another of the pricey models), which I will leave a link below the pics to the story of this incredible car.
The Looksmart and Redline models are nicely detailed and rare, and don't come up for sale often, so I threw caution to the wind when buying them.
The MG model was quite pricey also, but the very detailed Kess Spider was only about $100 USD, which is a bargain for this kind of detail.
Please click on pics to enlarge for better clarity.
The very interesting story about the Thomassima article here https://www.topspeed.com/cars/ferrari/1967-ferrari-thomassima-ii/
17/06/2024 6:15 pm
Beautiful cars. I am envious of the first two LookSmarts (No. 20 and 21) as I have them on a wantlist from my supplier, but his importers switched and the list got scrambled, so I missed out. Once I realized he wasn't getting any, it was a scramble to find them, with no luck. Any chance your supplier has any left? These are 'holy grails' for me. But all was not lost, as I did locate the third LS model, LSLM104, the 330 P3 Spyder NART entry from 1966, from a Chicago-area retailer. Such a beauty, and if I only ever have one, at least it's a NART car. The real car was a DNF.
A diecast subscription series called Centauria made a 330 P4 Can-Am spider. The No. 27 car was 8th at Laguna Seca, with sponsorship from Harrah's. Found on ebay.
The MG Model is nice, but not high on my list. I have only two Redlines, the Targa Florio 250 GTO and the 312 PB Daytona winner from 1972 (no pic yet).
17/06/2024 7:34 pm
That Can-Am Spider is just a little weird looking - with that spare the back. Did they have a rule change for that year or something? Must have required the mechanic to ride along as well? 😉 🙂
Like it was 1920 all over again!
Topic starter
18/06/2024 11:29 am
the first two LookSmarts (No. 20 and 21) as I have them on a wantlist from my supplier
Yes Harv, there was a lot of confusion with ordering these Looksmart 330 P3's. I had a pre-order in for all of the available 330 P3's, but couldn't get any from my dealer.
I was told by another dealer that there were more pre-orders than models produced......that is why your dealer couldn't get you them, and my dealer couldn't get me them either.
The ones I have were all bought on the-bay, and what I have learned is, they don't come up for sale often.....I just got lucky that they came up for sale and decided to get them no matter the cost.
What do you think about the Kess Can-Am Spyder? It is probably the best bang for my buck purchase in a while....you have to see this thing up close.
I would love to add those 2 #27's to my new collection.....congrats to you on those.
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18/06/2024 11:37 am
That Can-Am Spider is just a little weird looking - with that spare the back. Did they have a rule change for that year or something?
All the Ferrari P3's had a spare tire, not just the Can-Am cars.....the regular P3's had a spare tire in the back above the transaxle that were hidden by the rear shell body cover (see pic below)
The rear shell panel change to the body from P3 to Can-Am resulted in a flatter rear panel and a loss of space, so the spare tire had to be moved to the back of the exterior of the car.
And no, the mechanics didn't ride with the driver....that would have slowed the car down significantly.....but just imagine getting a flat tire halfway around the track when you are the farthest away from your pit team with no spare and trying to limp the car back to the pits.....every second counts in these races....that is why they carry a spare tire.
I think the spare tire and the brackets that fasten it to the model add more detail to the model....it is a fascinating model car with loads of detail for the money spent.....this will be a model that will double in price when sold out, and eventually get more expensive on the secondary market as time goes by, so get yours while they are still available.
18/06/2024 11:46 am
Congratulations Ben on finding these models to add to your collection you are truly one lucky collector.
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18/06/2024 1:39 pm
Congratulations Ben on finding these models to add to your collection you are truly one lucky collector.
Thanks Steve.....I have been on a mission.
I also gathered a few more Ferrari models that have been on my list, including a couple more Ferrari GTO and Ferrari 250 GT models.
The P3/4's, GTO's and the 250 GT's are my 3 favorite Ferrari body styles.
I'll post some GTO and GT 250 pics tomorrow.....same Bat time, same Bat channel.
Steve Jacobs reacted
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19/06/2024 12:43 am
Topic starter
19/06/2024 12:52 am
'holy grails'
And just a quick update Harv....I was bidding on a BBR Ferrari P3, and just won it a few minutes ago at midnight.....I am usually sound asleep by now, but I watched the auction to the end.
It is the 1967 Le Mans #23 Attwood/Courage car.
That is the last P3 I needed on my list (for the time being anyway 🤣)
19/06/2024 1:20 pm
A few Solidos captured the spare, though a bit crude by today's standards. Sports racers had to carry not only a spare but a certain size of 'luggage' to qualify as Grand Touring entries. Anyone know when these restrictions were deleted?
David Green reacted
19/06/2024 3:57 pm
Congratulations Ben on finding these models to add to your collection you are truly one lucky collector.
Thanks Steve.....I have been on a mission.
I also gathered a few more Ferrari models that have been on my list, including a couple more Ferrari GTO and Ferrari 250 GT models.
The P3/4's, GTO's and the 250 GT's are my 3 favorite Ferrari body styles.
I'll post some GTO and GT 250 pics tomorrow.....same Bat time, same Bat channel.
Lol,
We must be close in age... 71 here and I never missed Batman !! Also liked Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, The Time Tunnel, The FBI, and The Invaders. Oh yeah there were quite a few others. Love my models of anything I can get my hands on GT40s, Ferrari models some Porsche models... good Lord the 60s were a great decade for me !! I can't wait to see more of your pics, thank you !
Ed Davis reacted
19/06/2024 4:08 pm
Ed Davis
Inverness, Illinois, USA
19/06/2024 4:33 pm
@ed-davis Yeah but the approach angle of the flying sub when it hits the water should have had it skipping like a rock. They never showed it actually submerging, just in flight and under water. I could never get my head around that one.
Also, while on the subject of Irwin Allen, my physics teacher in high school explained why proportional giants cannot exist (ie, Land of the Giants). If, for instance, a 12-ft. person existed, his weight would go up 8 times (volume 2x2x2 increase). But the cross-sectional area of his leg bones would only quadruple (2x2). So eventually in increasing size the bones would fracture or shatter unless the cross-sectional area is increased to handle all that weight. Just look at an elephant's legs - they are very ungazelle-like.
Ed Davis reacted
19/06/2024 8:24 pm
Ed Davis
Inverness, Illinois, USA
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