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Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to everybody,especially all those forum contributors during the year,special thanks to Dick for his great efforts which I am sure are appreciated by all contributors,special thanks to all contributors for their many postings which come in many forms--expertise,specialisation,photos,high end,low end,collector(that`s me)fun,sarcasm(in good humour)etc.All postings take some time and effort & hopefully this will continue into 2008.Only disappointment for 2007 appears to be an inaccuracy on the forum.There is some evidence that Donald Duck was 14 in 1934(his first cartoon)and born in 1920.
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Thank you Ed, according to all sources I managed to Google...
"Donald Duck first appeared in the Silly Symphonies cartoon The Wise Little Hen on June 9, 1934." Mickey Mouse first appeared in 1928.
I do not think there is a definitive answer---
Birthday
There is nothing in the works of Carl Barks that indicates what Donald's birthday is.
One early reference is in the movie The Three Caballeros (1945) (IMDb entry), which takes place on Donald's birthday, which then fell on Friday the 13th. If the movie is supposed to take place in 1944 the only Friday 13 then is in October. In 1945 April and July would be possible, but in that case the movie took place in the future, as it was released in February 1945.
When a month has been given explicitly it has been March 13, like in Donald's Happy Birthday from 1949 (IMDb entry). That has been adapted into a comic story by Freddy Milton and Daan Jippes.
(Note that there are legends about these dates that associate them with actual dates in our world, like the day Donald first was drawn at the Disney studio. There is no truth to this, though.)
Nowadays most often the date of Donald's screen debut (June 9) is used for his birthday inside the frame as well. That's the case in Don Rosa's stories for example.
In Marco Rota's Buon compeanno, Paperino (= Happy Birthday, Donald) Donald says that he was born September 16, 1934 (i.e., date of first appearance in comics), but in the Italian reprint ten years later that was changed to June 9, 1934.
The year of Donald's birth is 1920 according to Don Rosa.
Anyway Happy Holidays-------I must keep to 1/43 in future.
Ed, I always look forward to your postings ............
So Merry Christmas to you and I hope you get something for your model car collection over the Christmas period.
Cheers Chris
Autominologist residing in the Robin Hood County
Nottinghamshire England UK
a Christmas gift to Ed, Dick, and many others
Gentlemen- You have made my simple comments and even more simple pictures welcome. I thank you with this Donald by Pride Lines from Manoil. Merry Christmas. David Holcombe
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David,even when I stop laughing I `ll never come up with a response to that posting.
On reflection those cars could have inspired the 1930`s Batmobile with those long bonnets.
I am sure you will Ed ... just give it time! LOL!!!!
Autominologist residing in the Robin Hood County
Nottinghamshire England UK
David there is nothing wrong with either your ......
comments or pictures they are both welcome here!
You have an interesting collection from times past to current production. It appears that variety is the spice of collecting to both of us! Now when was the Donald Duck car released? BTW a great Manoil car.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year David.
Cheers Chris
Autominologist residing in the Robin Hood County
Nottinghamshire England UK
I`ve amended the posting Chris (PIC),Do you or
David know of any connection with the models shown and the 30`s Batmobile. Both David`s models are very similar to the Batmobile.
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Ed, is the Batmobile a 'fully licenced product'? ......
If it is then it would represent what would have originally appeared in a comic. IMHO the similarities between the Manoil's and this Batmobile are based on a generic 1930's streamlined styled design. In the case of the Manoil's I don't think that anyone has identified the design as being with any real life car. But you never know....
Cheers Chris
Autominologist residing in the Robin Hood County
Nottinghamshire England UK
Manoil- then and now
I'm happy you enjoyed the Manoils. Jack and Maurice Manoil were best known for their late 1930's metal soldiers, but their original toys of 1934 were seven vehicles (I have all of them, with variations), all designed/sculpted by Walter Baetz. The firm was in Manhattan, then Brooklyn, and Waverly, New York, until it closed about 1955. Their later toy cars and trucks were plastic.
Manoil cars were not based on actual cars. But Mr. Baetz was in the mainstream of dream cars of the period. Dick Tracy and Batman, as well as other comic book characters, were of the same period, and their artists were influenced by the same society that produced the Manoil line. Is it any surprise that automobile manufacturers came under the same influence? The Cord Beverly and Westchester come most quickly to mind.
In the 1980's the Manoil dies were located and purchased by Pride Lines Ltd. of Lindenhurst, NY. That company modified the cars and added licensed Disney figures, also producing other Disney toys in the late 1980's. Today Pride Lines sells reproduction Manoil cars with finishes (and prices)that the Manoil brothers never dreamed of. Pride Lines has a good web site under its name.
I'm gratified by your interest. David Holcombe
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GADM actually made some more recently and they have been featured on eBay earlier this month. The prices seem to have come down on them as well. The last GADM listing had a 'Buy It Now' of $350 and it went unsold. It's a great looking model that I would consider buying if it were not so close to the holidays.
Treat yourself John - it's Christmas!
Autominologist residing in the Robin Hood County
Nottinghamshire England UK
Thanks for this information David - I have been aware ..
of Manoil for around 20 years. This is the first time that someone has put a name to the designer of these products.
Thanks very much.
Cheers Chris
Autominologist residing in the Robin Hood County
Nottinghamshire England UK