I have the Delage D8-120 L&M in a 1939 version, by IXO Museum Collection, and a 1938 version by Spark Models. Side by side, they are not similar in size, so I took a look at the specs for the 1:1 Delage D8-120s by L & M. I also had the experience to personally view an original, and in addition to their vertical radiator being incorrrect, there was something else about the Spark model that I couldn't put my finger on.
Overall I view the Spark model as being too 'skinny' in comparison to the IXO Delage D8-120, which was 'bulkier' and better fit the image I had in my head of what the original was. A review of the spec sheet shows the wheelbase of the original was 3302mm, a front track of 1422mm, and a rear track of 1488mm. The Spark model has a wheelbase of 75mm, a front track of 35mm, and a rear track of 34mm. The IXO model has a wheelbase of 75mm, a front track of 36mm, and a rear track of 38mm. As the gentleman said in 'The Story of Chuck,' numbers don't lie. The IXO model is clearly a better proportioned model, when compared to the original Delage D8-120 L&M Coupé.
I find this surprising, when I consider the cost of the Spark model over the IXO Museum model, and even the IXO standard D8-120 L&M model, for one expects more for one's buck. As detailed as the Spark model may be there is one detail they overlooked.
Must be a wheelbase of 75mm not 750... 😉 The rear tracks are 4mm off from each other, not much in miniature, but 17 cm or 7 inches in full scale which seems like a lot...
...yeah, well, I've spent many an hour on diatribes dealing with this very subject - I shan't bore everyone yet again, other than to reiterate:
I find it hard to believe that in 2026, manufactures continue to have problems with "scale." It's just math! Figures don't lie, but liars can figure; how can Company A measure a "1956 Whatever" and calculate scale dimensions very different than "Company B's" results?
If one-foot equals 7.09 mm in 1/43, then one-foot equals 7.09 mm, not 7.1, or 8.3, or 6.7, etc. 😬 😬 😠 😠 😡
@karl If I learn nothing else during my time in the DZ, it will be to check my numbers again and a second time, before posting. You are correct and I will make the appropriate adjustment.
Yes, that difference in the tracks is what bothered me, because in the real world that is a substantial difference.
@chris Absolutely!! How is that they can't get it right? And, the radiator on the Spark Delage? The radiator is not straight up and down on the 1:1 and it causes me to wonder if they have ever seen a real Delage, or even a photograph.
I have read that some early Spark used Provence Moulage resin castings as a base. Many early Provence Moulage belonged to an early era when, like John Day white metal, the human eye rather than accurate measurement ruled the day.
@david-green I agree that many patterns makers used their eye back in the day. If current models are not exactly 1:43, then I think some pattern maker or modeler decided that true 1:43 did not look right to the 1:1 eye. OR, some bean counter said: "that is too much resin/metal, reduce it!" because of cost.... In 2026, we definitely have the technology to make it 1:43 in all dimensions!
IMHO, both models are incorrect, Spark is too "skinny" and IXO is too bulky, both have decent sideview. Another incorrectness of the Spark is the down slopping hood. Never the less I love Delages, so have both models. Have 2 others from Matrix, have to take a look at those.
While these are 2 separate chassis, they were both made by the same coachbuilder, so they should be much more similar.
here is another discussion on the same topic and comparison of the model of the Delage by Pourtout.
https://diecast.org/community/1_43/diecast-for-today-8-12-21-ixo-mus010-delage-d8-120/
Note, at the time of this older discussion, I did not own the IXO model, and for long time I considered it more inferior model but it grew up on me, so I finally got one.
@chav Dramatic scale differences to say the least. There's simply no excuse for this - and IMO, there's never a need for deliberate adjustments to fool the naked-eye, so that scaled-down replicas look better. Simply scale down accurately and let the results speak for themselves - it is what it is.
I've used Google Gemini dozens of times to scale down 1:1 vehicles and occasionally the results surprise me, but I've never considered manually adjusting any dimension so that the model looks better. 🙄
For instance, I would've bet that the distance between the C-pillar and rear of this '57 Dodge would've appeared longer in scale....but it just didn't, however, it's accurate.
Here's the Delage D8-120 for comparison - 1/43 IXO vs. 1/43 Gemini:
FRONT
3/4 FRONT
3/4 REAR
Hmm..... 🤔 🤨
@chris That is cool! Perhaps, we should just collect virtual models... much cheaper, less clutter.
@chav I have the IXO Museum Portout and I think it's fine, especially for the price.
@chris The Gemini wheels are much better proportioned.
@chav I have the IXO Museum Portout and I think it's fine, especially for the price.
Agreed. I also have the IXO and Heco 1:43 and the Automodello 1:24 just because my main interest is in 1:24. The Automodello is stunningly finished model but the shapes are inaccurate to the 1:1. Raffi interprets the shapes for appearance in scale (something Chris mentioned designers do) and the Automodello version is too elongated similar to a design drawing of the Delage. I finally figured out why IXO and Automodello made the car in black, there is drawing of the car in black published in a 1937 magazine.
Marshall Buck is working for years on a 1/12 kit, I think that would be the best interpretation when finished (... if finished).
https://cmamodels.com/limited-editions/1937-delage-d8-120-s-aerodynamic-coupe/
















