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Re: Dennis' post 26649.2.1.1.1. Dennis, John and I saw a huge boulder slide down a very steep side of the hill on the side of the entrance to Pikes Peak.
The boulder was about the size of a Peterbilt truck and it slid 50 or more feet down a steep grade of about 30-40degrees. As it came down, it cleared everything in it's path. Trees included.
The spooky part was that it could have rolled into the roadway.
These pics show the same result after these boulders broke loose from the nearby cliff and landed near or in the water. The second pic has a man in it for size comparison.
This is the Frio River near Concan TX and has been a favorite of mine since 5th grade.
I have no reports of any human, animal or car collector abuse with these fallen rocks......
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Also amazing is that our ancient ancestors somehow moved and cut rocks this size...
with amazing precision and made magnificent edifices of stone from them. One of those "How did they do that?" questions!
David K Angeloni
You are so right.
I can see how 100,000 people can slide rocks along, but I still can't fathom how the stones were hoisted up to build the pyramids.
At the base of the Western Wall in Jerusalem, ...in what they call "The Rabbi's Tunnel" is a single block of stone that is over 40 feet long and 15 feet high. It is estimated to weigh 47 tons and is about 3-4 feet off the ground. Engineers are baffled as to how it was put in place.
John Kuvakas
Warrenton, VA
Now I understand your verbage from previous postings .....
All so very interesting. Thanks to you all for this one.
I am a student of history...ancient history. Modern man prides himself on his technology...
but if you do some research on the ancient indian sandscrit texts (of which they have only been able to translate about 10 persent). They talk about flying machines of the ancients, mushroom clouds from "fire sticks" used to attack the enemy, and TECHNOLOGY THAT MADE STONES TO FLOAT IN THE AIR. The stuff is fascinating. My bible tells me that man was once very smart and is just now re-discovering these "new" things.
David K Angeloni
Don't believe claptrap such as this. The ancients had impressive technology...
...but such nonsense is the invention of modern sensationalist writers such as Erich von Daniken and Charles Berlitz.
You are entitled to your opinion as am I...
Von Daniken's "Kon Tiki" was required ready at my Catholic HS back in the sixties. Berlitz surpports his opinion on myriads of physical evidence which he shows in his books. There are many many others that are of the same opnion and offer evidence supporting their position.
David K Angeloni
Agreed ... Ancients did have Impressive Technology ... and perhaps
How did the ancients acquire the Impressive Technology
Why was this Impressive Techology seen all across the globe in many different places of the world at the exact same time frame ... such as same architechure design builders
I totaly embrace history and what the ancients wrote and recorded is ancient BOOKs and ancient texts
If the Impressive Techology was present way back then ... why was it completely lost and forgotten?
And why is Impressive Technology just now being exposed as main stream?
Science has strongly embraced, respected and supported Impressive Technology.
Perhaps ... Science should be embraced and perhaps respected with wider eyes.
Is it "possible" that Science and Impressive Technology be hand in hand?
Could this ... be a possiblity?
The answer is ... YES!
And if so ....
What if ... It were true?
One thing I don't buy is that the technology was given to ancients by interstellar travelers.
I've engaged into some interesting debates with fellow astronomers and space geeks. I contend, that interstellar travel is impossible for ANY civilization anywhere in the Universe. I feel that way because of Albert Einstein's equation of relativity.
Einstein's E=MC? proves that the speed of light is the fastest velocity in the Universe. It proves that nothing can travel faster than the SOL. For 100 years, his equation has withstood all challenges and has proved to be correct. Assuming that it will withstand future challengers, the SOL is indeed the fastest velocity and is the speed limit of the Universe, then the distances between interstellar objects is too great to practically travel between the stars. For example, our next closest star system is Alpha Centuri. It is 4.24 light years away. If we were able to actually travel at the SOL, it would require 4.24 years to get there and of course 4.24 years to return. Assuming once you arrive, you'd want to spend some time exploring, a journey to the CLOSEST star would require approximately 10 - 11 years. Again, that's just to Alpha Centauri.
With people that I've discussed this some have offered the relative understanding of time and distance. They have suggested the plausible notion that a distant civilization might view time differently than we do. Their lifespans could be radically different from ours. Our year could be their hour. If they had a lifespan of 1,000 of our years, then traveling great distances would present less of a problem for them. Hard to argue against that because it certainly is plausible. I do recall reading that it was theorized that if humans were immortal, the lifespan would only be 600 years. That's because the human body would probably be killed by some sort of accident so lifespans would still be limited.
I return to the slow speed of the SOL. Its limitation is the reason that I think interstellar travel is impossible for us and impossible for any other civilization. Consequently, I don't think the ancients were "given" technology. Any accomplishments they managed were done using their own ingenuity and not a gift from extraterrestrial aliens.
Marlowe please check this out...the speed of light may not be the constant we believe it is...
http://www.khouse.org/articles/1995/58/
http://www.khouse.org/articles/2002/423/
BTW I agree with you! That's a first!!! LOL
Also interstellar travel may be possible...read these if your interested.
http://www.khouse.org/articles/2002/388/
http://www.khouse.org/articles/2002/398/
David K Angeloni
Thanks, David. Frankly, I had trouble grasping some of what was said. I was kind of lost...
... during the explanation. However, I moved from slightly lost to total shut down when it evolved to biblical explanations which is no proof at all.
But it is.... but to each his own...
David K Angeloni
+ 1 ... To each his own