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30/11/2018 3:13 pm
Regarding post #39620 below...and the comments that were added to it. The discussion went from "opinions" to "being sensitive" to others feelings. This got me to reflecting on the continuous "politically correct" movement in our world today.
Before I go further, let me clearly say that I fully agree that when it comes to sensitivity and diversity, we as a society have made some very needed adjustments with regard to both. However, as with most changes, I think it's possible that we've tipped the scales too far to the other side with how far we do it.
With the Christmas season upon us once again, I'm reminded of a few things that have changed with regard to our sharing and enjoying the joy of the season. Things like, we're told not to say "Merry Christmas".
Back in December 2007 when I was still working, two changes were announced with regard to how my employer (a major financial institution) would respond to the season.
Every year prior, we would always have a Christmas party, but that year it was announced that because not every person celebrates Christmas, it would now be a Holiday party.
It went farther than that though. Every year prior as well, the company engaged employees to participate (if they chose to) in the "Secret Santa" game. For those of you who don't know what that is, it goes like this. Employees who choose to participate, have their names drawn at random by other employees who are participating, and then the employees send little (minimal cost gifts) to the person whose name they've drawn. But, the person who gets the gifts doesn't know who it is that drew their name, and the added fun is trying over a period of a couple of weeks to try and guess who your "Secret Santa" is.
This activity was done for years at my company (and others for that matter), and was always received well and looked forward to, by those who chose to participate.
But that December of 2007, the word came down that they would no longer have employees play the "Secret Santa" game.
WHY??? Because it was stated that ONE employee had expressed that because this employee (and family) did not celebrate Christmas, the Secret Santa game was disturbing to them. So, because of this ONE person, objecting to it and finding it offensive the their beliefs, the entire employee base lost out.
It was voluntary that anyone played the game at all.
Usually there were about 100 employee's that played along, but because of this ONE person, and in attempt to not bother the employee, the game was no more.
To that person who had issues with Christmas and the Secret Santa participation, I say it's that person's issue and the rest of the company should not have had to suffer because of it.
This is an example of our PC culture too going to far. We have went way overboard with trying to not insult another person, group, culture, etc. In doing so, we've become a much more hostile and angry world.
As for me, I will continue to celebrate Christmas, say Merry Christmas, and if anyone doesn't like it or has a problem with it....they just have a problem!!!
George Schire
Oakdale, Minnesota
30/11/2018 3:34 pm
Good For You George
Our country has gone nuts with all of this political
Correctness nonsense. I think more and more people
Are getting sick and tired of it.
30/11/2018 5:04 pm
Miss Shilling's Oriface. Warning! A touch of Military Humor.
During the Battle of France and Battle of Britain in 1940, RAF pilots discovered a serious problem in fighter planes with Merlin engines, such as the Hurricane and Spitfire. When the plane went nose-down to begin a dive, the resulting negative g-force would flood the engine's carburettor, causing the engine to stall.
German fighters used fuel injection engines and did not have this problem. So in action, a German fighter could evade a pursuing RAF fighter by flying a negative g manoeuvre which the RAF plane could not follow.
Beatrice Shilling devised the R.A.E. restrictor to solve this problem. It was a brass thimble with a hole in the middle (later further refined to a flat washer), which could be fitted into the engine's carburettor without taking the aircraft out of service. The restrictor limited maximum fuel flow and prevented flooding. By March 1941, she had led a small team on a tour of RAF fighter stations, installing the devices in their Merlin engines. The restrictor was immensely popular with pilots, who affectionately named it 'Miss Shilling's orifice' or 'Miss Tilly's diaphragm.' It continued in use as a stop-gap until the introduction of the pressure carburetor in 1943
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Beatrice Shilling astride her racing Norton.
30/11/2018 5:26 pm
Very cool that back then a woman solved this very important issue.
30/11/2018 5:35 pm
I always am stunned by the management team that makes such inane but politically correct decisions. If I was a major shareholder of a company like the one George describes I would be very concerned about true ability of the people managing it. If a supervisor working for me in such a company pulled off such a stupid decision I would call that person in and order them to reverse their decision and tell the employees why. I would own it. Then that person's career would be dead-ended. In my experience such managers are spineless cowards who spend their career kissing the butt of anyone who can advance them. Generally they do this because they are without actual ability.
01/12/2018 2:28 am
I know I'm one of the ones that is sick and tired of it - & George
I work for County Government
As I read your story ... I am reminded of 2 people talking to each other. Person #3 walked by and was not engaged in the conversation in no way shaper form or fashion.
Professional Standards got involved & called the 2 original people down town.
Yeap .. You got it ... Everything headed South because of person #3 walking by
And upper management can not figure out why employee moral has bottomed out.
Like you ... I say Merry Christmas to anybody who tells me Happy Holidays
I'm surprised as to how many people standing around, will turn will turn around and say out loud ... "Thank You Dennis".
Dude ... That's just fuel's more fire in my belly
I refuse to stand down.
There are a few folks at work that do not celebrate birthdays and they do not celebrate any holidays.
And you know what ......
We are best of friends
I respect their thoughts and beliefs
And they respect mine
So in Closing ....
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
01/12/2018 3:07 am
+1 I agree!
01/12/2018 3:29 am
Today everything is structured to make everything GOOD for the "weakest link" or the individual.
01/12/2018 3:46 am
I'm with you 100% on this , George!!! More could be added, but I'll stop here!
01/12/2018 4:31 am
If you let PC continue unchallenged in time you eventually lose your culture.
01/12/2018 4:45 am
I'am with you 100% George. Thanks, well said.
And we say Merry Christmas in our home as well as please and thank you and the Pledge to our great flag. We pray before every meal. We are Old school and will stay that way. I do not appreciate "political correctness" in any form.
And I still open the car door for my bride after 21 years and do so not because I am anything special but because she is.
I smile at people where ever I go and say hello and enjoy their reaction when I do.
So God bless the USA and our great flag.
Topic starter
01/12/2018 6:54 am
God Bless you Dick Johnson! I do and agree with everything you said. And hey,
I still open the car door for my princess and we've been together 46 years and will be married 45 years on this forthcoming January 12th.
We taught our two daughters to say please, thank you, and to refer to their elders as Mr. Mrs. or Miss. We showed them right from wrong, always went as a family to church on Sunday's (and still do) and say meal grace before every meal.
We still remove our caps and put our hand on our chests for the National Anthem and recite the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag with the word "God" in it.
Christmas for us is about doing kind acts for those in need, volunteering, and celebrating the real meaning of the season.
Not patting myself on the back, just saying what I do and what I believe should be done. I also believe in forgiveness so that each day I can move on. Not forgiving stops one from living and enjoying life. Doesn't mean one has to forget, but you have to forgive.
I believe that each of is in charge of what kind of attitude we want to choose every day. We believe in working for what you want, not living off the system always being a victim. Yes, we are in need at times in our lives, but we need to help ourselves and want to be better to make get better.
MERRY CHRISTMAS!
George Schire
Oakdale, Minnesota
01/12/2018 7:43 am
It's a question of where to draw the line. In '57 Studebaker sold a stripped-down "Scotsman" model.
That was offensive back then as well as today!
Barry Levittan
Long Island, NY
01/12/2018 10:08 am
Agree totally - but snicker when folks cant understand why we are so divided DUH
Topic starter
01/12/2018 10:49 am
Oh man Bruce, does your comment sum it up nicely. Couldn't agree with you more.
George Schire
Oakdale, Minnesota
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