The 2024 Cadillac Celestiq

I agree! They intend to go up against Rolls and Bentley. They just may pull this off!!

Posted by: @jkuvakas

I agree! They intend to go up against Rolls and Bentley. They just may pull this off!!

All very fascinating, I can't wait! 😉 😉 

@chris, I'm eager to see how well they handle the interior. In that respect, Lincoln is already doign a better job. In order for the Celestiq to compete at a level high above Linclon, they're going to have to up their game. IMO the interiors on Cadillac's current SUVs don't cut it. But the new CT4 V shows promise.   

Posted by: @jkuvakas

@chris, I'm eager to see how well they handle the interior. In that respect, Lincoln is already doign a better job. In order for the Celestiq to compete at a level high above Linclon, they're going to have to up their game. IMO the interiors on Cadillac's current SUVs don't cut it. But the new CT4 V shows promise.   

My wife says the same thing; she likes the Lincolns better. Have you seen the Cadillac Lyriq? I'm trying to "push her" in that direction. Yes, the CT4 V does show promise (I need one for my 1/18 collection too; I just have a "non-V")

@chris, I've seen only pictures but it looks beautiful. The pics I've seen of the interior look promising. What's really amazing is they've managed to keep the selling price  highly competitive. I believe this was one of the smartest moves Cadillac has made recently. They're already sold our for the model year.

@jkuvakas  

Yep, Cadillac will up their game $$$.

$300,000  worth ????? 

Steve

@100ford2003, guess we'll ahve to wait and see. But, it won't be the first time Cadillac offeredn a bespoke, hand made vehicle. 

I can't wait to see it !  I drooled over the Sixteen when I saw it at an Auto Show ! Did Cadillac make a huge mistake by not producing them ?

Steve

The biggest problem with electric vehicles is that the infrastructure is way too far behind the curve for any of this “greenness” to really be viable. I keep thinking about that snowstorm this past winter down the I-95 corridor between D.C. & Richmond, VA…whatever electric vehicles got stranded in that overnight mess surely ran out of juice to keep their passengers warm…& then what happened? We’re they brought a bucket of electricity or did they have to wait for a tow truck to come rescue them? Hmmm, I wonder how many charging stations were there along the route…?

I guess this will be a halo-car, drawing people back to GM in general and Cadillac in special.

And halo-cars often come without profits...........

@terryslekar, valid observations. Still, we're not seeing dozens or even several electric vehicles sitting by the side of the road on a daily basis, even in snowstorms. You're actually more likely to run across someone who ran out of gas than someone who ran out of power. The infrastructure is growing and developing. Ranges are improving. Reliability is through the roof due to fewer moving parts. 

One thing is certain, electric cars are changing our preceptions of performace. Until Tesla made electric cars about quickness and acceleration, they were largely considered geek-mobiles. Now every major maker, including Ferrari, Porsche, Maserati, Rolls, Bentley, et al, are offering or are currently developing electric vehicles. Why the high-end performance/luxury guys? Because they can build a car that accelrates to 60 MPH in under 3 seconds and offers all the cutting-edge conveniences and connectivity people want. These vehicles are not only fast, they handle exponentially better because of a low center of gravity and suspensions that react to driving dynamics in miliseconds. It's an all new world. No, they don't offer the visceral expereince of an ICE powered car. But no one cares about how it sounds as it crosses the finish line.  

I remember my dad saying, "I like power steering and brakes, electric windows and air conditioning. But, today's cars aren't real cars, they are appliances we ride in. People are forgetting how to really drive!" This was in the late fifties! They're coming whether we approve or not. I don't think I'm one who would buy an electric vehicle. I'm not sure I have enough confidence in auto-pilot to let my car drive for me. But, the next generation of drivers will learn their skills in vastly different vehicles from the ones we learned on. 

@jkuvakas 

John summarized the realities of EVs & BEVs quite eloquently; I agree on all fronts. There's nothing to add or correct. It's all true. Three points of interest I'll note for the record:

1) ICE vehicles are on the way out. Incrementally, year after year, production numbers will drop. EVs are on the way, like it or not.

2) True enough, EV infrastructure is not where it needs to be (yet). It's coming and will mimic the 20th century's introduction into ICE vehicles, that is, the (gasoline) cars came first then the infrastructure (filling stations) followed. Range anxiety is a real concern, but this too shall pass.

3) Autonomous (self-driving) vehicles don't have to be perfect. They may never be. All they have to be is better than humans....they are. The data is overwhelming. 

@jkuvakas   Just a small note.  My hybrid Lincoln is now 5 years old, never a problem, dependable, and overall gas milage is just under 40 mpg.  If I were going to replace my second (small) car, I wouldn't hesitate a moment over buying an electric.  The larger one?  I'm just going to keep driving this Lincoln. . . well, my wife usually drives it.

  David H   

@d-m-holcombe, amazing! Who ever thoguht we would see the day when a car as nice as that could get that kine of mileage out of a gallon of gas!