[Closed] AUTOart's Porsche 928

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Your photography skills are outstanding, the subject car appears almost 3 dimentional as it just pops right out at you. Thanks for sharing, also liked the froggy guy.

Richard, your photos are outstanding!

Thank you. I enjoy looking at them.

That is a beautiful subject you chose to photograph!

Interesting that 33 years ago, car manufacturers thought that passenger door mirrors were unnecessary.

Great pictures, Richard, of a difficult old bus. We have a friend who was, back then, an aerodynamicist for Williams and he drove a 928; I can remember him on several occasions walking home, having spent the evening with us because it refused to start, even after the Williams mechanics had fettled it.

Having detracted from it, M?bius' design was sensational and was/is a great attention getter, even now.

The 1:1 is one of my favorite white elephant classic supercars. Not even remotely pretty and........

a nightmare to service, it was a formidable performer in it's day and was almost universally reviled by Porsche purists with it's front mounted water cooled V-8. Maybe that's part of the reason that I like it! 😉

If you get the chance to hear the rumble of it's exhaust, you're not likely to forget it, although the chances of actually seeing one are pretty slim these days.

Great photos (as usual) of a fine little car, Richard and oh so '70's in that color!

Outstanding pics, thanks.

I have never cared for foreign cars and Porsche is one of them, but back in the day the 928 was the exception. The style caught my eye and a liquid cooled, front engine, V8 made me go buy one. My kids played with it extensively but I rescued it from them and to this day the only car I have kept all these years.
here is what it looks like today.

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Great pics & review, Rich. I have the Minerva Blue car...

which goes much better with the blue checkerboard seats. I couldn't wait for AA to release theirs. I think they did an outstanding job & am anxiously waiting for their S model as I have a very personal history with the 928:

It was the first Porsche I ever sat it...my dad's friend's '82 928S.
It was the first Porsche I ever rode in...my dad's other friend's '85 928S 5spd.
It was the first Porsche I ever drove...my dad's '86 928S (just like this below)

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my Minerva Blue model
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I'd love to have a 928 in my collection.

I have a question for you, Gavin.........

I called this model a 1979. The paint was only around from 78-80. '78 had the battery attached to the gearbox and there were shocks on the gearbox too. The model shows a box for the battery stamped into the undercarriage and no shocks. And supposedly in '80, there was a rear spoiler.
Does all that make sense to you?
I almost forgot. Nice photography!

Cool! What scale is that? 1/43?

Hope this helps

Porsche introduced a refreshed 928 S into the European market in 1979 model year, although it was summer of 1982 and MY 1983 before the model reached North America. Externally, the S wore new front and rear spoilers and sported wider wheels and tires than the older variant, but the main change for the 928 S was under the hood, where a revised 4.7 L engine was used. European versions debuted with 300 PS (221 kW/297 hp), and were upgraded to 310 PS (228 kW/306 hp) for 1984 model year, though it is rumored [and proven on chassis dynamometers] that they typically made around 330 hp. From 1984 to 1986, the ROW (Rest of World) S model was called S2 in UK. These cars used Bosch LH-Jetronic fuel injection and purely electronic Bosch ignition, the same systems used on the later 32-valve cars, though without the pollution controls. North American-spec 1983 and 1984 S models used, among other differences, smaller valves, milder camshafts, narrower intake manifolds, and additional pollution equipment in order to meet emissions regulations, and were limited to 234 hp (174 kW/230 PS) as a result.
As the faster ROW or "Euro" model was not available in the United States and Canada during the first three years of its existence, a "Competition Group" option was created to allow North American customers to have an S model lookalike with spoilers, 16" flat disc wheels, sport seats, sport springs and Bilstein shocks. Customers could specify paint and interior colors the same way as on a normal 928. The package was available in 1981 and 1982 model years and was canceled in 1983 when the S model became available for these markets. Many cars have had S model features added by subsequent owners, making original "Competition Group" cars difficult to distinguish without checking option codes.
In 1982 model year, two special models were available for different markets. 205 "Weissach Edition" cars were sold in North America. Unusual features were champagne gold metallic paint, matching brushed gold flat disc wheels, two-tone leather interior, a plaque containing the production number on the dash and the extremely collectible three-piece Porsche luggage set. It's believed these cars were not made with S spoilers even though these were available in U.S. during this time period as part of the "Competition Group" option. The "Weissach Edition" option was also available for the US market 911 in 1980 model year and 924 in 1981 model year.
140 special "50th Jubilee" 928 S models were available outside the U.S. and Canada to celebrate the company's 50 year existence as a car manufacturer. This model is also sometimes referred to as the "Ferry Porsche Edition" because his signature was embroidered into the front seats. It was painted meteor metallic and fitted with flat disc wheels, wine red leather and special striped fabric seat centers. Similar 911 and 924 specials were also made for ROW markets.
Porsche updated the North American 928 S for 1985, replacing the 4.7 L SOHC engine with a new 5.0 L DOHC unit sporting four valves per cylinder and producing 288 hp (215 kW/292 PS). Seats were also updated to a new style. These cars are sometimes unofficially called S3 to distinguish them from 16-valve ROW "S" models. European models kept a 4.7 L engine, which was somewhat more powerful as standard, though the American-spec 32-valve engine together with catalytic converters became an option in some European countries and Australia for 1985. In 1986, revised suspension settings, larger brakes with 4-piston calipers and modified exhaust was installed on the 928S, marking the final changes to old body style cars. These were straight from the 928S4, which was slated to debut a few months later. These changes came starting from VIN 1001, which means that the first thousand '86's had the old brakes, but later cars had the later systems. This later 1986 model is sometimes referred to as a 19861⁄2 or 1986.5 because of these changes. The name is a little misleading as more than 3/4 of the 1986 production had these updates.
The 928 S4 variant debuted in the second half of 1986 as a 1987 model, an updated version of the 5.0 L V8 for all markets producing 320 PS (235 kW/316 hp), sporting a new single-disc clutch in manual gearbox cars, larger torque converter in automatics and fairly significant styling updates which gave the car a cleaner, sleeker look. S4 was much closer to being a truly world car than previous models as only major differences between ROW and US models were instrumentation in either kilometers or miles, lighting, front and rear bumper shocks and the availability of catalytic converters in many ROW markets. The Australian market version was only one with different horsepower rating at 300 PS (221 kW/296 hp) due to preparation for possible low grade fuel. Even this was achieved without engine changes.
A Club Sport variant which was up to 100 kg (220 lb) lighter became available to continental Europe and U.S. in 1988. This model was watered down version of 1987 factory prototype which had lightened body. Also in 1987 the factory made four white lightened manual gearbox S4 models for racecar drivers who were on their payroll at the time. These were close to same as later actual Club Sport models and can also be considered prototypes for it. An SE (sometimes called the S4 Sport due to model designation on rear bumper), a sort of halfway point between a normally equipped S4 and the more race-oriented Club Sport, became available to the UK. It's generally believed these Porsche Motorsport-engined cars have more hp than the S4. They utilize parts which later became known as GT pistons, cams, engine ECU programs and a stronger, short geared manual gearbox. The automatic gearbox was not available.
For the 1989 model year, a visible change inside was digital trip computer in dashboard. At the same time Australian models received the same 320 PS (235 kW/316 hp) engine management setup as other markets. Porsche debuted the 928 GT in the late winter 1988/89 after dropping the slowly selling CS and SE. In terms of equipment, the GT was like the 928 SE, having more equipment than a Club Sport model but less than a 928 S4 to keep the weight down somewhat. It had the ZF 40% limited-slip differential as standard like the Club Sport and SE before it. Also like the CS and SE, the GT was only available with a manual gearbox. ROW 1989 CS and GT wheels had an RDK tire pressure monitoring system as standard. This was also optional for the same year ROW S4. For 1990 model year Porsche made RDK and a 0-100% variable ratio limited-slip called PSD (Porsche SperrDifferential) standard in both GT and S4 models for all markets. This system is much like the one from the 959 and gives the vehicle even more grip. In 1990 the S4 was no longer available with a manual gearbox.
The S4 and GT variants were both cut at the end of 1991 model year, making way for the final version of the 928. The 928 GTS came for sale in late 1991 as a 1992 model in Europe and in spring of 1992 as an early 1993 model in North America. Changed bodywork, larger front brakes and a new, more powerful 5.4 L, 350 PS (257 kW/345 hp) engine were the big advertised changes; what Porsche wasn't advertising was the price. Loaded GTS models could eclipse US$100,000 in 1995, making them among the most expensive cars on the road at the time. This severely hampered sales despite the model's high competency and long standard equipment list. Porsche discontinued the GTS model that year after shipping only 77 of them to the United States. Total worldwide production for all years was a little over 61,000 cars.

that's a Matchbox...1/64. I have a bunch of them.

Thanks Rich. Regarding your question...it does make sense to me, but honestly, I don't really know. I was only 12 when my dad got his (almost 15 when he got rid of it)...so I didn't really pay attention to the small details.

I call my Minerva blue a '78 in my records...don't know if that's accurate or not, but generally default to the first model year when its not disclosed.

The first model year had two things not evident on the model....

gearbox shocks and the battery attached to same. The undercarriage on the model shows a battery sized box next to the gearbox and no shocks. The '80 model supposedly had a rear spoiler. After '80, that color was no longer available. So that's my figurin', sir.

Good Lord, Paul. You wrote a book!....

I'm at work with no time to wade through your text. I hope there's an answer in there somewhere. I'll tackle your tome tonight.