[Closed] Goldvarg Model Cars: Choosing correct colors for models cars

Great post.

Great post, Ray ! Victory Rules !

Raymond,contact whit Sergio that always reply ..

Sergio tell me that pink were available on Comet on demand that year,I don't like pink and I Will buy in Green but other colors I would have see on this model.

Personally the pink Comet is not my choice; I will take the alternative.

I tend to concur that model colors ought to be those that were regularly seen back in the day. Regarding station wagons of the 60s; personally I generally prefer to see lighter colors on wagons, especially those with the "wood grain" feature but there are some dark shades that also appeal, including of course black. Now on to the higher end wagons (like the Olds of topic here). I tend to be more accepting of "flashier" metallic colors on these cars so on this Olds wagon the metallic garnet, heather, etc. are fine with me; whereas a pastel orchid is not. I think it is wise to offer two colors for this model; one flashier as just mentioned and one more conservative. This tends to satisfy a broader range of collectors IMO. As an aside, I would also offer one color of the Olds wagon without skirts for this same reason. Lastly, I wonder if perhaps Sergio also wants to ensure one or two popular colors don't appear in his line of models too frequently; for example basic red, metallic blue or metallic turquoise/aqua. These are prevalent, attractive 60s colors offered by the various marques. As most of us know, marketing results/history tends to greatly influence the colors offered; for example red sells well in general so we see it a lot. Those of us who collect a large number of models obviously grow tired of this attractive color being overdone in our display cabinets, so we ask for an alternative; which may not sell as well overall. Point being is that people like Sergio have many aspects to address in order to be competitive in this business and we may not understand the entire picture...I know I don't. I am very pleased that Sergio is open to frank discussion and sees the value in it for everyone involved. I find it very refreshing to see the perspective of others and offer mine for consideration. I always appreciate Ray's perspective, given his history in our hobby.

Some good points, Raymond....

There's "Perfection", and then there's basic authenticity. I think the former is probably unrealistic, but surely, accuracy isn't. So, although tastes may vary, I think the 1:43 should reflect accuracy, and I'll add..original popularity. And, the color stats are most often available from the manufacturers themselves, records were kept.

I can personally recall this copper brown metallic on the family 1960 Comet with white and black interior and nylon tweed seat inserts.

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No, I disagree. A model builder should offer a variety of colors and options if they want. This may include colors which the so-called experts may claim are "not-authentic". There is no real way to prove 100 % without any doubt as to what a car may or may not have been painted at the time. In any case, judgement of even "correct" colors is largely subjective and hard to quantify in reality.

I also think supposedly "non-standard" colors or cars that were dealer painted are valid subjects, as are "what-if" ones.

Widely acknowledged "factory-correct" colors I think should definitely be offered as a part of a replica's production run, as these will be perhaps the most popular choices.

I will buy what I like and I resent someone, ANYONE, insisting that only cars meeting their personal dictates should be produced for sale.

Mike

Reply to Mike DeTorrice.

I knew there would be someone who wouldn't get my point, maybe more, because we have only heard from a few collectors.
First, I didn't see the term "expert" used in my post, or any of the other posts following mine. No one professes to be, as you state emphatically, a so called expert. It's just a stated opinion, of which I am entitled to have. This forum, and John Kuvakas, can correct me , if I am wrong, is for discussion and opinion, of model car subject matter.
As far as 100% proof of authentic colors for any particular year, there certainly is proof, and plenty of it. There are a variety of paint chips from different paint manufacturers. There is a dealer album sent to each dealership, for sales personnel, with paint chips of colors being offered for that year. The 1961 mercury Comet sales brochure lists all of the colors and upholstery choices on the last page. What more do you need.
Lastly, you can buy whatever you like. This is a democracy last time I checked. There is no need for you to resent anyone from having an opinion, but I personally will insist on authenticity in a model. That is my opinion, and you have yours. The smart thing for a manufacturer, however, is to make the color that the 99,998 people will buy, and not the other way around.

Or we can simply make every model Mint Green and Pepto Bismol Pink!

The purpose of this forum is "for discussion and opinion" -- and how about fun?

We all have different motivations for buying. We all have opinions.

The only time things get testy is when we state our opinions harshly and begin insinuating that someone is wrong because their opinion differs. Each of us should pause before entering the "post" button and ask if we wrote our post in anger or resentment. A quick proofread should help keep the tone amiable.

I think Ray stated his opinion and gave advice based on a depth of experience in the hobby. Whether or not Sergio receives that advice and offers a car in one color or another is up to him. Whether any one of us buys that color is up to each individual and their own preferences. Either way, hopefully, Sergio will sell all of his models as long as he continues to offer his incredible values and each of us will look on our displays with some pride of ownership knowing that we bought what pleases us, and we'll all wake up in the morning and still be friends.

Let's move on, gents.