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[Closed] Hey, 1/43 'merican car experts! Two questions... Plymouth/Hudson

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(@karl)
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Hey, 1/43 'merican car experts! Two questions... Plymouth/Hudson

My buddy in Chicago just got these 2 in a large purchase.

Western Models(?) 1958 PLYMOUTH BELVEDERE Convertible. It has no labels on the baseplate. Is that normal, or did they make it for someone else? Came without a box....
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Is this a Hudson Hornet? Who could have made it?
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Curious minds want to know.



   
(@randy-bahler)
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The Hudson Hornet is by Precision Miniatures I believe.



   
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The Plymouth by Western Models



   
(@karl)
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I was more curious if Western left off their name from the baseplate on many of their models? Or ...

did so on this one for some reason....

Thanks for your reply!



   
(@karl)
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David H did one 2 years ago - hood ornament and side flash look different? link

Thanks for your reply!

https://www.diecast.org/diecast98/html/asp/forums/lounge/viewMessage.asp?id=157786&start=157782



   
Randall Olson
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Hi, Karl. Western typically put their "WM" logo on the baseplate ot their models. The logo was embossed on a separate little square piece they attached to the base and painted the same colour (black) as the base. On models that they made for others such as Minimarque, I think they left off the logo. When they started this practice, I do not recall but can say that I have seen many of their models with these logos.

Why it is missing on this particularly common Plymouth is unclear to me. They had issued the 2dr sedan as a kit and perhaps this piece could have been left off at the discretion of the builder. I do not recall if Western offered the convertible as a kit, though. Those were pretty early days in the business when running changes were common so the absence of apart like a logo piece is not surprising to me.

Finally, I do not think they ever did this model for any other company. I have no record of one being done nor memory of one.



   
(@karl)
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Thanks - the paint looks geat on this so it was factory or pro-built, I think!

No photos online of the baseplate - plenty for sale on the'bay though. Does anyone have one?



   
Randall Olson
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Factory-built is my guess. I answered the last part of your question above while

You were posting this comment, I think.



   
Randall Olson
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Randy is correct, it is PMI. Issued in 1979 and mastered by Dick Armbruster, who made the patterns for many PMI, Motor City and Durham Classics models, more than 1500 of these litle Hudsons found their way as kits and built-ups to hobbyists. This is an important model to me because it was key to the start of built-up models that so many of us on this Forum and throughout the World have embraced. In my book, "Independents in Miniature" I devote a few pages to this particular car and include some anecdotes and descriptions from the builders themselves. What an exciting time this must have been to be there during this important stage in the development of our hobby.

David H. and others may recall that this large side trim piece missing on this kit-built model was an applique?



   
(@karl)
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Great stuff - thanks for reading and replying to my stoopid questions!!!



   
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Randy is correct it is a PM model that was redone.



   
(@john-quilter)
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Recently got a '60 Chrysler 300F by Western but known as a Kims's Classics and there is no base plate labeling but the box is a Western Models box and the sticker on the box says Kim's Classics. Interestingly I have two of these, a red one with no side mirrors and a cream one with dual side mirrors.


John F. Quilter
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