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Certainly, something a modeler can work with, especially in a larger scale or printed in resin.

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Chav, the whole process which you have presented so skillfully is far beyond my understanding.  But I agree with your conclusions.  This looks like a great possibility for those of us who like to build.   Let me know when you go into production.    David H



   
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@chav It was 3D printed at ORNL's Manufacturing Demonstration Facility in Knoxville. And it has electric power. During Obama's administration both he and Biden visited the facility and got rides in it. (It is rare for a President and VP to travel together). I was able to see the printed layers where the door should be. I took this one when the car was on display next to the ORNL cafeteria when I worked there.

 

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This was actually the second printed car ORNL experimented with. The first, in conjunction with Local Motors, was the Strati, shown below. ORNL went on to demonstrate large-scale 3D printing possibilities with a couple of jeep-like vehicles and even small buildings.

Local Motors Strati 3D printed car small

  



   
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Compared the shapes of my printout with pictures of the 1:1, found multiple errors. So far, based on picture review, MS USA remains the best rendering.



   
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Here is a 3D printed 1/43 1939 Willys on ebay.  I have this car in 1/32 and 1/25 scale.  The body is stock with correct wheel openings and no hole in the hood.  This is a great place to start for a toy replica.  Mine will eventually roll on simulated white rubber tires with red wood wheels and feature no glass or interior, intentionally made to look like a Hubley die cast toy from that period.  The only thing I have to scratch build will be the unique for 1939 headlamp lenses.  That should be easy enough to carve from a clear toothbrush handle or any solid chunk of plastic.  At $9.95 plus $4.45 shipping, it is a cheap way to see what you can come up with.

ebay item number 304356634696



   
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Posted by: @d-crowe

 

Screen Shot 2022 02 14 at 10.15.08 AM

Here is a 3D printed 1/43 1939 Willys on ebay.  I have this car in 1/32 and 1/25 scale.  The body is stock with correct wheel openings and no hole in the hood.  This is a great place to start for a toy replica.  Mine will eventually roll on simulated white rubber tires with red wood wheels and feature no glass or interior, intentionally made to look like a Hubley die cast toy from that period.  The only thing I have to scratch build will be the unique for 1939 headlamp lenses.  That should be easy enough to carve from a clear toothbrush handle or any solid chunk of plastic.  At $9.95 plus $4.45 shipping, it is a cheap way to see what you can come up with.

ebay item number 304356634696

Yes, I saw this one, this is a resin 3D printout (different printer and media, much better quality particularly for small parts), not sure why he printed the windows in gray resin (perhaps for shape and pattern). They maybe originating from the same 3D artist.

Willys Coupe 1939 Body For Print 3D model 3D printable | CGTrader

BTW, there are many places where one can order a 3D object for print.

Considering the cost, hassle and skills required to print a good printout as the one you are showing on ebay, $15 is a huge bargain, particularly for the 1939 Willys that was probably never done in 1/43. Again, if the 1939 was created by the same artist, there are issues with the proportions, but the model is very acceptable.

Who made the 1/25? 



   
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You guys amaze me!  I have no clue about this technology.



   
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Screen Shot 2022 02 14 at 10.15.08 AM

Considering the cost, hassle and skills required to print a good printout as the one you are showing on ebay, $15 is a huge bargain, particularly for the 1939 Willys that was probably never done in 1/43. Again, if the 1939 was created by the same artist, there are issues with the proportions, but the model is very acceptable.

Who made the 1/25? 

The same ebay seller offers the Willys in 1/43, 1/32, and 1/25.  The proportions look good to me but I have never seen the real car in person.  Based on numerous pics, I'd say the proportions are as good as any toy or model of this generation of Willys ever made.



   
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@d-crowe 

So, you have the 1/32 and 1/25 from this seller? is that correct? If so, I will be more specific ...

BTW: the 3D files, which I pointed earlier also come in multiple scales.



   
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@chav Yes, I have both 1/32 and 1/25 scales.



   
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Doubt they flew in on the same aircraft, but here they are with the car...

 

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Maybe we should try to convince Sergio to do the 1939 and 1940 Willys coupes!  I think it would be a very good seller as many car/model guys really like this car.



   
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@d-crowe 

My comparison has lots of limitations: first I am comparing 3D model of 1941 to an online photo. The 1939 printout you have was perhaps generated from different artist, so it may be more accurate, however you should be able to look at your printouts and see if anything I am pointing here is applicable. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to find good side photos of stock car, everything online is hotrods with modified rear fenders .... I tried to draw on the picture to underline the errors I see but couldn't draw well with the software I have ...

Basically, you can see both fenders are misshaped, the rear wheel well is too forward, the rear roofline is incorrect. The model is overall elongated. There are more issues not seen on the side view, the bonnet is a bit too flat, the lower line of the windshield is rounded on the 1:1 and almost flat on the 3D model. All these issues are workable or "close enough" of course, so these 3D models are pretty good deal for the money.

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Posted by: @jack-dodds

Maybe we should try to convince Sergio to do the 1939 and 1940 Willys coupes!  I think it would be a very good seller as many car/model guys really like this car.

1941 before 1939 and 1940.

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@chav I suspect all of the issues you point out apply to the printed cars I have.  But they are unmistakable representations of a 1939 Willys.  My intent all along was to create toys, not dead on accurate representations.  However, I would bet they are more accurate than any Brooklin ever soldered together from brass and more accurate than 75% of the Chinese resin cars so many people (me included) scramble at the chance to buy for $120.  Each individual has preferences and that is why there is an apparent ongoing market for 3D prints, Chinese resin, and Brooklins. 

Vive la différence !!!



   
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