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Driverless cars scare the hell out of me.  In fact, people driving cars scare the hell out of me.  I'm not bragging here, and I say up front I don't proclaim to be the best driver better, but I can say with 100% sincerity that I am a good driver that has a spotless driving record. 

Never any tickets or accidents (that were my fault).  I've never driven under the influence of any drug or alcohol, EVER!  I use my turn signals EVERY time, I stay 1 car length behind the car in front of me for every 10 miles of speed, as I was taught by my Drivers Training instructor in 1967.  One hundred percent of the time, I use my seat belts and I insist that my passengers do as well.  With regard to speed, I always follow the speed limit signs, and if it says 60mph, I do NOT exceed it.  Too many drivers think 60mph, means it's okay to do 80mph.  I don't weave in out of traffic either.  

I have NEVER used or attempted to use my cell phone while driving!  And I actually drive with my hands on the steering wheel in the "10 after 2" position (again as taught by my instructor). 

The infractions and bad driving I witness every time I'm in my car from other drivers, is mind boggling.  I've no idea how so many people were issued licenses with the horrific ways they drive their cars.  And now I'm going to have to deal with "driverless" cars. 

OMG, where does it end?  

"Ten after Two" would mean both hands at the same point on the wheel; the two o'clock position. Ten OF Two must be what you mean.  Cool   

 



   
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@perrone1 "Ten after Two" would mean both hands at the same point on the wheel; the two o'clock position. Ten OF Two must be what you mean.

 

Point taken Tony, but I wonder..... have you taken daylight savings into account?

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@perrone1 "Ten after Two" would mean both hands at the same point on the wheel; the two o'clock position. Ten OF Two must be what you mean.

 

Point taken Tony, but I wonder..... have you taken daylight savings into account?

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OMG Jack; of course. This is highly serious stuff here amigo! When I drive, I use a modified, "10 to 2" hand position. I use, "13 to 2" to adapt to the extra strength of my right arm over that of my left. Now that is except for when I put the vehicle in reverse. At that point I use a "5 of 3 " hold. During daylight saving time, I always wait an hour before driving!! 

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Posted by: @georgeschire

Driverless cars scare the hell out of me.  In fact, people driving cars scare the hell out of me.  I'm not bragging here, and I say up front I don't proclaim to be the best driver better, but I can say with 100% sincerity that I am a good driver that has a spotless driving record. 

Never any tickets or accidents (that were my fault).  I've never driven under the influence of any drug or alcohol, EVER!  I use my turn signals EVERY time, I stay 1 car length behind the car in front of me for every 10 miles of speed, as I was taught by my Drivers Training instructor in 1967.  One hundred percent of the time, I use my seat belts and I insist that my passengers do as well.  With regard to speed, I always follow the speed limit signs, and if it says 60mph, I do NOT exceed it.  Too many drivers think 60mph, means it's okay to do 80mph.  I don't weave in out of traffic either.  

I have NEVER used or attempted to use my cell phone while driving!  And I actually drive with my hands on the steering wheel in the "10 after 2" position (again as taught by my instructor). 

The infractions and bad driving I witness every time I'm in my car from other drivers, is mind boggling.  I've no idea how so many people were issued licenses with the horrific ways they drive their cars.  And now I'm going to have to deal with "driverless" cars. 

OMG, where does it end?  

"Ten after Two" would mean both hands at the same point on the wheel; the two o'clock position. Ten OF Two must be what you mean.  Cool   

 

LOL, YES, I meant "10 and 2" position.  I made a boo-boo, and this is the very reason that pencils have erasers and white-out was invented (by Michael Nesmith's mother...Nesmith of course of The Monkees music group fame).  

 


George Schire
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"During daylight saving time, I always wait an hour before driving!! "

 

@perrone1 I hear ya Tony and what you say makes sense.  On the same theme...I always wait an hour after eating before I drag race my Amphicar.

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@jack-dodds That's smart. You do not want stomach cramps when drag racing.



   
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For me hand placement on the steering wheel is not an issue since I keep my hands over my tightly closed eyes.


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@perrone1 "That's smart. You do not want stomach cramps when drag racing"

Too right Tony; plus you have to consider being tossed into the water during a "prop stand" off the line and having to swim to shore.  It could happen....... 😉 

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Yeah! I often worry about that - it's the sharks one might encounter in such a scenario. I hate the dang fish and want to punch them ALL in the teeth, eat other seafood, not some tasteless old Italian!



   
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Posted by: @georgeschire

Driverless cars scare the hell out of me.  In fact, people driving cars scare the hell out of me.  I'm not bragging here, and I say up front I don't proclaim to be the best driver better, but I can say with 100% sincerity that I am a good driver that has a spotless driving record. 

Never any tickets or accidents (that were my fault).  I've never driven under the influence of any drug or alcohol, EVER!  I use my turn signals EVERY time, I stay 1 car length behind the car in front of me for every 10 miles of speed, as I was taught by my Drivers Training instructor in 1967.  One hundred percent of the time, I use my seat belts and I insist that my passengers do as well.  With regard to speed, I always follow the speed limit signs, and if it says 60mph, I do NOT exceed it.  Too many drivers think 60mph, means it's okay to do 80mph.  I don't weave in out of traffic either.  

I have NEVER used or attempted to use my cell phone while driving!  And I actually drive with my hands on the steering wheel in the "10 and 2" clock position (again as taught by my instructor). 

The infractions and bad driving I witness every time I'm in my car from other drivers, is mind boggling.  I've no idea how so many people were issued licenses with the horrific ways they drive their cars.  And now I'm going to have to deal with "driverless" cars. 

OMG, where does it end?  

  Your post fascinated me.  That's because I was somewhat surprised by how different we are.  

1.  Driverless cars do NOT frighten me at all.  If anything, I'd feel safer with a technology-driven vehicle than I do flawed human drivers.  

2.  I had tickets AND accidents that were my fault.  My first at-fault accident was in 1970 when I slid through a stop sign on an icy road.  I collected an opposing traffic car.  My second accident was in 1976 when I rear-ended a car while I was looking for the address of a store.  

3.  I've driven drunk before.  I distinctly remember driving home from my cousin's house in 1975.  I was ripped and, without any question, way too inebriated to drive.  When I smoked the "herb superb," without hesitation, I routinely drove while smoking a doobie.  In fact, I distinctly remember loading up all my buddies in my car, and all of us were getting high smoking a doobie.  

4.  My hand positions are based on what kind of driving I'm doing. If I'm canyon carving (like I did yesterday with a neighbor), it's the 9 and 3 racing position.  If I'm driving leisurely, I'm frequently using one hand, resting it on the door seal or armrest, with the hand in the 9 or 10 position.   

5.  I routinely speed on freeways.  And it is routine on California roads for most drivers.  Even the CHP allows it as long as it's within the speed of the traffic flow.   My highway speed is ROUTINELY between 75 and 80, and even in my highly visible, attention-getting C8 Corvette, I NEVER get stopped by the CHP.  On surface streets, I'm pretty much a straight arrow and drive the speed limit.  

6.  I tried to text while driving ONCE!  I quickly learned that it's literally not possible to do safely, and never did it again.

 

Today, we're in total agreement on several issues. 

1.  I've had one ticket in the last 35 years.  I got that in 2015 on a deserted two-lane road around 7:00 AM on a Sunday morning.  I was caught by a hidden female motorcycle police officer (She told me she was one of 4 in the entire country and the only motorcycle LA Sheriff's Deputy) on radar doing 10 miles over the speed limit.  She explained to me that the road was infamous for fatalities, so there had been a recent emphasis on monitoring the road.  

2.  I never drive under the influence of intoxicants.  First, I put down the "herb superb" in 1984.  My alcohol consumption is usually limited to one beer.  And even that, I usually don't finish because I'm the one always driving.  

3.  I always use my turn signals.  When I change lanes, I don't treat it like a "lane-clearing device."  

4.  I NEVER tailgate.  Not only do I give ample room in front of me, I'll INCREASE that room if the car behind me is tailgaiting.  That way, if a sudden stop occurs in front of me, I have a "buffer" of space for the car behind me so I don't get rear-ended.  Indeed, when my wife is out, and we see multiple cars line up on the side of the freeway, all of them rear-ended, I always remind her that the accident scene was caused by tailgating.  

5.  I 100% use my seat belts and demand my passengers do as well.  The car doesn't move until everyone is properly belted. 

6.  I no longer question how people get driver's licenses.  I know how they got 'em.  In California, if a person is over 21, Driver's Education courses are NOT required.  So, unfortunately, Uncle Ed or Aunt Sarah taught their niece or nephew bad driving habits, and the niece's or nephew's learned bad habits were passed to their children or nieces or nephews when they taught them how to drive.  It's a copy of a copy of a copy, and the first copy was not of good quality.  And you can easily see it on the California streets and highways.  

Those are my stories and I'm stickin' to 'em!  

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Well put together Marlowe; thoughtful, honest, above board. I'd drive with you anytime, anywhere!



   
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Driverless vehicles will become the norm one day, but everyone's fears could be quailed much sooner if V2V technology (vehicle to vehicle ) was more readily available and used to capacity. 

The industry seems to be dragging their heals on incorporating standardization that would allow for all vehicles to "talk"  to each other.  Once this happens, and ANY vehicle can communicate with ANYTHING on the road, or NEAR the road, or about to APPROACH the road..... theoretically then, anything on wheels is virtually 100% safe with or without a driver.



   
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Indeed Marty, we are different.  But one thing I do know is that you are honest and above board and a decent person.  I recall fondly some of the phone conversations you and had years back about a menu of topics. 

Regarding my driving, as I said, I don't claim to be the greatest driver on the roads, but I've always taken it extremely serious.  I will NOT, and NEVER have driven with an intoxicated driver, and I've never driven under the influence of anything.  Sadly, I've lost friends and family in accidents that could have been prevented, had they been more personally responsible. 

Biggest admission is that I absolutely hate tailgaters!!!  I literally would like to stop my car at a stop sign, get out of it, walk to the tailgaters car, knock on their window, and when they open it, just give them a solid knuckle sandwich in their kisser and then walk back to my car.  I've no tolerance for them!  LOL, guess you can see I'm serious on how I feel about them. 

As for accidents, I stated that I'd never had any that were my fault, and that's true.  I have though, been in three accidents where I was just in the wrong place at the wrong time, and I was hit.  One of them, could have been much worse, as the driver literally T-boned me and pushed my car in to wall.  As for "texters" (and cell phone users) while driving, I'd like do the same thing to them, I'd like to do to tailgaters.  They are idiots!!! 

Okay, now all of our dirty laundry shared, I hope you're doing well my friend and possibly we'll talk again sometime. I consider you one of the real good-guys on this Forum of friends we share.   


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Posted by: @chris

Driverless vehicles will become the norm one day, but everyone's fears could be quailed much sooner if V2V technology (vehicle to vehicle ) was more readily available and used to capacity. 

The industry seems to be dragging their heals on incorporating standardization that would allow for all vehicles to "talk"  to each other.  Once this happens, and ANY vehicle can communicate with ANYTHING on the road, or NEAR the road, or about to APPROACH the road..... theoretically then, anything on wheels is virtually 100% safe with or without a driver.

I pray I've left the planet by the time your scenario above is reality.  

 


George Schire
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