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(@bob-jackman)
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I received the black Riviera today and while the model is beautiful I have a question about the wheels...were these an option? I had a heck of a time opening the model as I had to slit the sleeve in order for the box to come loose. I then got the model out of it's display case so I could take the body off of the chassis in order to change out the tires to the whitewalls. Also received the 61 Pontiac so it was a banner day. The eight lug wheels on the Pontiac are fabulous.



   
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@mg-harv Received the black model today - stunning, stunning, stunning. Love the car, love the model - beautifully done.



   
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@bob-jackman 

I also found getting the box out of the sleeve was not easy, but I did get the box out without having to cut it. My white one is also beautiful, I may not have mentioned that in my original post.


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@ben-lampson What are the qualities of metal models over resin? There are none. Otherwise, please explain me.  Metal models are manufacturing nostalgia of 30 years ago when the first resin models were very crude. You can try to convince me if I am wrong but when I look  at the very nice reviews of JK on recent Brooklins models, casting defects and porosity are all over and metal sanding scratches can be seen on all surfaces. Go back to the Pontiac Catalina review and you will understand what I mean. 

As far as what is best, it is always related to what money can buy and provide the customer with a quality product. I don't buy models to support a company but to get the most accurate image of a particular model, in this instance a 1963 Buick Riviera. So, the best is still relevant in its own meaning.



   
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@bob-jackman The hubcaps were the standard Buick for the Riviera. From the pictures I can see, they are poorly replicated and the whitewall tires far too wide. The finned aluminum turbine hubcaps would have been a far better choice. This is the choice Golvarg made.



   
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Thanks Nickles. I couldn't recognize them especially because they are black which doesn't look right to me.



   
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@ben-lampson 

Hmm, the w/w tires on the Caddy look much narrower than the ones provided for the Rivie.

Is that correct for the model years represented ? 



   
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Posted by: @nickies

What are the qualities of metal models over resin?

@nickies..........Please go back and read my reply to you....I never said white metal models are better than resin. 

In fact, I never even sided with white metal models in my comment.

You are the one who said 'the best'.

I said they both have their own qualities and can't be compared. They are 2 different types of models.

Have you purchased a white metal model that was crafted after 2015 or so? Even the Brooklin models now are as good as the resin.

I am guessing you purchased Brooklins when they were toy like and you feel you got burned because they didn't hold their value.

I have a shot glass that I keep all the parts in that fall off my resin models, while they sit static in my display cabinet, and it has quite a few different parts in it (about 100 pieces) that I will eventually get around to re-applying to the models.

I have another shot glass that I keep for all the parts that fall off my white metal models. That glass is empty, and has never had a part from a white metal model in it.

I like the crispness of a resin model, but I like the weight and the exclusivity of white metal models. The details are getting to be about even for the both.

Neo, Matrix and other resin crafters make thousands and thousands of the same model, while Conquest, WMCE and Highway Travelers make 30 of each and only 10 of each color. Exclusivity!!!

And some collectors will tell you that they don't collect models for investment, but I'll bet everyone of them THINKS about it.

I have 3 times as many resin models than I do white metal models, but if I were to sell them all, I would get at least 3 times as much for the white metal models than I would for the resin models.

Exclusivity!!! Grin  

 



   
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@nickies With all due respect, and acknowledging that there are MANY others on this forum that have forgotten more about 1:1 and 1:43 scale automobiles than I will ever know and have collections that dwarf mine...you have consistently and repeatedly over several months expressed your view that is explicitly negative towards white metal models and Brooklins in particular.  Anyone that follows this website is keenly aware of that. You are of course entitled to your view. However, given the demographics that I imagine this site attracts, I'd suggest that any additional negative commentary will fall on deaf ears, as these folks know what they like and what they do not like and are unlikely to be swayed by further "model hate mongering" if you will. Seems to me that you have a bone to pick that goes beyond simply the value of white metal vs. resin. Or perhaps you just enjoy an open-ended debate, one in which I will not participate.

The overall quality of models today - white metal or resin - is incredible. This is a hobby for most of us and a business for some. I hope that you have a great day. This is my one and only comment on this topic. Thanks.



   
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Posted by: @tedweller

@nickies With all due respect, and acknowledging that there are MANY others on this forum that have forgotten more about 1:1 and 1:43 scale automobiles than I will ever know and have collections that dwarf mine...you have consistently and repeatedly over several months expressed your view that is explicitly negative towards white metal models and Brooklins in particular.  Anyone that follows this website is keenly aware of that. You are of course entitled to your view. However, given the demographics that I imagine this site attracts, I'd suggest that any additional negative commentary will fall on deaf ears, as these folks know what they like and what they do not like and are unlikely to be swayed by further "model hate mongering" if you will. Seems to me that you have a bone to pick that goes beyond simply the value of white metal vs. resin. Or perhaps you just enjoy an open-ended debate, one in which I will not participate.

The overall quality of models today - white metal or resin - is incredible. This is a hobby for most of us and a business for some. I hope that you have a great day. This is my one and only comment on this topic. Thanks.

Well stated.  I would like to add that it is important to occasionally remind oneself that to keep any forum healthy and enjoyable it is critical to appreciate and accept opinions that are different from or even completely at odds with those of other members.  Respectfulness is key.  To allow, respect and encourage discussion from all quarters educates us and allows us to perhaps reexamine long held opinions, attitudes and beliefs.  There is so very much collective knowledge in this forum about cars in general, model collecting, model building skills and many other unassociated topics.  To suppress or discourage this knowledge base from being communicated would be a great shame and contrary to our motivation in sharing our common interest.



   
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