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Rich Sufficool
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I got an email from Hobby DB with the subject of Danbury Mint. Here's a quote from it: "Danbury Mint has been putting the “mint” into vintage 1/24 scale model cars since 1969." I didn't think DM did anything until perhaps the very late 1980s and even then, their models were fairly crude compared to FM.

 

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DM had a line of pewter cars (as did the FM) that, I believe, pre-dated diecast. But I don't think it was as early as '69!


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Posted by: @rich-sufficool

 I didn't think DM did anything until perhaps the very late 1980s and even then, their models were fairly crude compared to FM.

 

What say anyone?

I don't know when DM started in the 1/24 diecast business, but I don't think you'll find much agreement here that their models were crude compared to FM. In fact, I think the opposite is true!

 


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From what I could find out DM started in 1969 but never started with diecast until the late 80's. 



   
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I remember the '35 Mercedes 500 K Special Roadster from 1983. There may be another around the same date.

1935

Mercedes-Benz

500 K Roadster- Red

Red

EY72

9/1/1983

One of the earliest I recall for the DM is this one but there may be another older:

1933

Pierce-Arrow

Silver Arrow (Operating Trunk)

Silver

812

10/1/1987



   
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@perrone1 Wasn't the Pierce Arrow opening trunk the Holy Grail of diecast cars in the past?  What's its status today?

 



   
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Posted by: @moe-parr

Posted by: @rich-sufficool

 I didn't think DM did anything until perhaps the very late 1980s and even then, their models were fairly crude compared to FM.

 

What say anyone?

I don't know when DM started in the 1/24 diecast business, but I don't think you'll find much agreement here that their models were crude compared to FM. In fact, I think the opposite is true!

 

Then you weren't around in the beginning when DM would find out what FM was working on and release a poor quality double. One example that comes to mind is FM's '28 Stutz Blackhawk. DM immediately released their '27 Blackhawk (for $10 less) which was horrible in comparison, low in content and with a bad black orange peel finish. They did the same thing with the early Jaguar XK120. I would also steer you to DM's Pierce Silver Arrow with the first run done by a Korean vendor (the opening trunk one), Then then switched to a Chinese vendor and to save money had a new mold made from the original tooling with the trunk sealed.

Now, in no way am I saying that DM didn't ultimately overtake FM in fit finish and content. I was only talking about their very early years.

 

 


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@pete-rovero I remember the 'excitement' around the open truck Pierce-Arrow from my earliest days finding these forums. I think one sold on our auction for a low four figure amount? Also of interest to me is Tony's record of the first FM 500K Mercedes selling in Jan 1983, a full 3-4 years before FM beginning to sell here in Australia from their own distribution center. Unfortunately DM never sold here directly but I was to find later their great customer service, and reasonably priced overseas shipping service.



   
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Posted by: @pete-rovero

@perrone1 Wasn't the Pierce Arrow opening trunk the Holy Grail of diecast cars in the past?  What's its status today?

 

Yep. I never saw one in the 'flesh' but know a couple fellows, here, who own one. The last time I saw one sell on eBay, it went for big bucks so it still is a Grail model. Low tech; I have the closed trunk version and like it despite the low tech and non-operational trunk. 

 



   
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