AN OLD SUV?

WOW!  This thread just keeps breathing new life.  THANKS everyone for the stimulating comments and opinions.  

@georgeschire Oh, you think is fun, do 'ya?    You see how many pics I had to post?     How many hours of research I spent?    Everything I had to read & lean about?    This thread has been a nightmare!     Four days is long enough!  

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@chris 

Ok Chris... KAPUT !!! 🤣

@chris LOL well in that case it's in pretty good company 🤣

@chris 🤣 😀 😊 🤗 !!

@moe-parr See....that's exactly what I said about these (your ) Buicks weeks ago on another thread.   You ARE in good company; IMO, Buick Envistas are nicely styled AND fit right in with higher-priced premium sport-back  SUVs.     It's a very nice vehicle.  😎 😎

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@georgeschire Oh, you think is fun, do 'ya?    You see how many pics I had to post?     How many hours of research I spent?    Everything I had to read & lean about?    This thread has been a nightmare!     Four days is long enough!  

😬 🤪 😵 😬 🤪 😵 

Okay, I will delete it.  Sorry for the inconvenience I've caused you.  

@sizedoesmatter Great comparison John B.

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"Sorry for the inconvenience I've caused you."  

It wouldn't be the first time....  😀 😆 🤣 

(...this thread might make it to Valentine's Day  - 😉) 

Most minivans were/are built on mid-size Front Wheel Drive car platforms. Some CUVs are now made from platforms like that. But SUVs are typically built on full-size truck platforms, many of which are body-on-frame, particularly the full-size ones like the Escalade, Expedition, and Armada. It was no coincidence that station wagons faded quickly once minivans hit the market in the mid-eighties. Minivans were seen as better, more economical, more comfortable alternatives than the noisy, hard-to-heat/cool, gas-eating wagons. I was selling cars back then. Once the minivans came, it became hard to sell a station wagon. They were thirsty, less space efficient, and harder to get in and out of (particularly for moms with little ones). Minivans dominated the market until SUVs/CUVs became refined in the early nineties (remember the original Explorer?). They were the best combination of wagons and minivans, and they offered AWD. 

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"Minivans were seen as better, more economical, more comfortable alternatives than gas-eating wagons."

Yepper-pepper!     I still recall seeing the first ones as Iacocca was saying, "Moms just love them - we're selling every one we can build!"     I was in shock!  "What the **** is this thing?   People are actually buying these?"          ....little did I know.  🙄 🙄       I scoffed at Lincoln's first Navigators too....  "Lincoln's trying to sell trucks?"     🙄 🙄 🙄

Well, I realize that if people buy them, they will be produced.  But I for one will forever be thankful that I grew up in an era that made owning and driving a car fun!  These SUV's and trucks today are not fun to own and even less fun to drive.